Sweat just ran out of our reach 4.42 defensive end.

[Eazy-E]

43 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Look man.. Farrell is a decent consolation prize but be honest out of all the top edge rushers who showed the least this weekend? I been saying Gary was superior to Ferrell since the season ended.

You stat watching(oh Ferrell had blah blah blah sacks) vs the sec guys swear up and down he was trash and went as far say He was way better than Gary. I knew Gary was a better athlete and after that I was asked who I would like and I said Sweat.  College production isn’t the only statistic to go by when judging prospects.

It’s easy to rack up 17 sacks or so when Wilkins who is going in the first round and Lawrence another freak who is 340 running a 5.0 is destroying the inside. Add in a offense that is blowing out teams and all this guy had to do was pin his ears back and rush the passer. I want a stud at end for the panthers. Ferrell is just a guy.

Yes he was playing on a great college team with a great d line but he still showed up and played well against the top teams in the nation. Austin Bryant was also on that line and he isn’t being talked about as a first rounder. 

Sweat on the other hand was a non factor against every top team he ever played against.

Sweat has a ton of potential but he needs work to become an every down defensive end. I don’t see him being anything more than a 3rd down pass rusher as a rookie. Sweat may have a higher ceiling but Ferrell is the more pro ready prospect  and would be a great fit with Mario this season.

If we are able to sign a significant DE free agent that’s one thing but right now we need a day one  starting DE and I think Ferrell and maybe Gary (still think he will be better suited as a 3-4 end or 3 tech) are your best options for that in this draft.

 

[ImaginaryKev]

Do the Panthers prioritize elite athleticism for defensive end? Ferrell seems like their type of guy, based on past draft picks. That said, it'd be nice to get some athletes like Sweat or Burns on the roster. 

[Matthias]

Haha, winning that crappy last game of the year is beginning to bite us in the @$$.

[pantherj]

Should have tanked the Saints game.

[Yaboychris28]

We won’t have a chance to pick him because we’d rather win a meaningless week 17 game instead 

[Moo Daeng]

1 hour ago, Yaboychris28 said:

We won’t have a chance to pick him because we’d rather win a meaningless week 17 game instead 

Yeah, we should have forced our 3rd string players to not try in their only chance to play. 

 

 

[Lumps]

According to the huddle we will get the same DE at 16 as we would 9 no need to worry guys...

remember we won vs the saints 3rd stringers, feels great doesn’t it?

[Matthias]

I probably blame the Saints more for losing than us winning that last game.  I do find it funny how the Falcons pick ahead of us when they beat us both times.  It always seems like we never win those types of tie breakers.

[micnificent28]

2 hours ago, Toomers said:

You mean brought him up in a GROUP of 5 players(not ranked) just saying they would all be picked. Who’s the DE we HAVE to draft? That’s what you jumped in here for and have spent the rest of the thread arguing with air about you Luvee. 

  How many picks should we give up for Gary? 1,2 and both 3s? 

Again you strictly target Gary just because you know I like him. I never said anything about Gary and keep saying how many picks should we give up for Gary and I never said Gary I said the guy we love. The Gary train is gone.. he’s going top 5-6 and I don’t think we can move that high. Sweat could go 9-10 and that is possible. 

[micnificent28]

3 hours ago, Pi = 3.1SHutYoMouth! said:

Athleticism and being the best high school recruit can also clout judgement and does not always translate well when there is no production to back it. Steve PFF doesn’t like Gary either.

 

That’s his opinion Gary which I don’t agree with but, I do agree with his method of scouting about not using sacks to judge a prospect. The reason he doesn’t move Gary is about his sack total I suppose. But many others do and most important the ones more likely making decisions.

[micnificent28]

I believe burns moved ahead of Farrell this weekend. 

[micnificent28]

3 hours ago, Pi = 3.1SHutYoMouth! said:

Athleticism and being the best high school recruit can also clout judgement and does not always translate well when there is no production to back it. Steve PFF doesn’t like Gary either.

 

Also athleticism is a good measure of potential of what a player could be.  Being a blue collar I try hard doesn’t mean anything if you just aren’t that good of a athlete vs the guys your up against.  No one is saying being a top recruit in high school is saying your a star in the making but those kids have been judged and graded in a process similar to now.

i don’t think u discount all that work that went into judging there ability from grade school to senior year. 5 a 5-star or whatever does help quickly identify ablity. Probably the only thing that guy your backup quarterback a look at the job he has right now because he was the top qb in his class.

[Moo Daeng]

15 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Also athleticism is a good measure of potential of what a player could be.  Being a blue collar I try hard doesn’t mean anything if you just aren’t that good of a athlete vs the guys your up against.  No one is saying being a top recruit in high school is saying your a star in the making but those kids have been judged and graded in a process similar to now.

i don’t think u discount all that work that went into judging there ability from grade school to senior year. 5 a 5-star or whatever does help quickly identify ablity. Probably the only thing that guy your backup quarterback a look at the job he has right now because he was the top qb in his class.

What they did in high school is meaningless to the draft.

[micnificent28]

3 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

What they did in high school is meaningless to the draft.

I don’t know why you think that. When a analysis or scout talks about Elite athletes like Gary or so on they love to bring up he was a 5-star too recruit coming out of high school and then go into there presentation. It’s like a recommendation from your former employer.