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Some notes from my source involving the NFL draft

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t96 Grand Master

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Verge, I think your source is reading the Panthers wrong. Edge seems to be a priority in the first round and makes all the sense in the world for it to be. Not saying we’ll definitely take an edge defender, but it seems just as likely as OL or DB.

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31 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I think Ferguson and Polite are dropping. Too deep a class for both of them to have off the field issues (Ferguson want invited to combine and Polite bombed interviews) and then not have good workouts. IIRC, Ferguson had a not so good pro day as well.

In this class, no chance they go 1st round. I’d even be surprised at 2nd round. There are always those guys that drop way more than expected and with how they’ve done, they are putting themselves in that bucket. Would you rather draft a Khalen Saunders or Daylon Mack at DT who had solid Senior Bowls/combines or one of the many LG potential guys or draft a potential bust throwing red flags at you?

I don't think his pro-day numbers were that bad.

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Maybe not 1st round, but not bad. He had good production in college, albeit against lesser talent. I was hoping that his past and the small school stink might make him fall to 100, where he could possibly be a steal. I was a bit surprised to see him listed (after getting dis-invited to the combine) as a day 1 pick by Verge's source.

https://clutchpoints.com/5-teams-attend-pro-day-for-jaylon-ferguson-after-he-didnt-receive-invite-to-nfl-combine-workout-leaves-an-impression/

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9 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

I don't think his pro-day numbers were that bad.

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Maybe not 1st round, but not bad. He had good production in college, albeit against lesser talent. I was hoping that his past and the small school stink might make him fall to 100, where he could possibly be a steal. I was a bit surprised to see him listed (after getting dis-invited to the combine) as a day 1 pick by Verge's source.

https://clutchpoints.com/5-teams-attend-pro-day-for-jaylon-ferguson-after-he-didnt-receive-invite-to-nfl-combine-workout-leaves-an-impression/

That's one of the worst 3 cone times ever, regardless of position. That's a very telling drill for edge rushers. 

To put it in perspective, Von Miller was almost a second and a half faster in that drill at 6.70. 8.08 is just unbelievably atrocious.

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2 hours ago, t96 said:

Verge, I think your source is reading the Panthers wrong. Edge seems to be a priority in the first round and makes all the sense in the world for it to be. Not saying we’ll definitely take an edge defender, but it seems just as likely as OL or DB.

Could be, he doesn't know the organization well, but he has nailed a couple of our picks over the years.

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2 hours ago, shaqattaq said:

Ferguson is a name that I've seen all over the place, from the fourth round up to the top of the 2nd. You still think that he might sneak into the 1st round? I had an eye on him as a possible 3rd round pickup. I think he has skills, but the small school mystique and getting kicked out of the combine should have made him drop a bit.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/jaylon-ferguson

Pretty confident he is a first round guy, depends on what exactly the off field issue was. We know it was sone form of violence. 

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Everyone is getting upset about the idea of taking interior D-line but a player that might be listed as a DT in college we might have plans for as a DE in a 3-4. 

An example would be someone like Jerry Tillery.

Also if we do go 3-4 who are our ends on the roster right now?

 

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27 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Everyone is getting upset about the idea of taking interior D-line but a player that might be listed as a DT in college we might have plans for as a DE in a 3-4. 

An example would be someone like Jerry Tillery.

Also if we do go 3-4 who are our ends on the roster right now?

 

KK would play DE in a 3-4 and probably excel there. And maybe Butler if we keep him around, though that would be uninspiring...

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29 minutes ago, t96 said:

KK would play DE in a 3-4 and probably excel there. And maybe Butler if we keep him around, though that would be uninspiring...

Has anyone actually watched film of where we aligned people last year when we did go 3-4?  I think they had Butler playing NT a lot. 

So here again who is the other DE?

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30 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Has anyone actually watched film of where we aligned people last year when we did go 3-4?  I think they had Butler playing NT a lot. 

So here again who is the other DE?

Allen Bailey ::fingers crossed::

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17 minutes ago, KDawg004 said:

Allen Bailey ::fingers crossed::

Why would we spend on him if we are going to draft DE at 16. We better be starting that guy if we draft him that high. I think we would have picked up Bailey but price was too high so we settled for Irvin. So other spot will be rookie 1st rd pick.

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39 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

Why would we spend on him if we are going to draft DE at 16. We better be starting that guy if we draft him that high. I think we would have picked up Bailey but price was too high so we settled for Irvin. So other spot will be rookie 1st rd pick.

Because they’re entirely different positions. Bailey is a 3-4 DE and would kick inside in 4-3 passing situations. Burns/Sweat play the same position as Irvin (3-4 OLB/4-3 DE). 

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8 hours ago, RIAnBOW said:

Very interesting, thanks.

Will be watching D. Jones closely.  I concur with your guy that Jones should be a top-10 pick and also believe if he is available at #16 the Panthers should take him.  

Can you ask your guy about that scenario specifically? 

Panthers taking Jones at 16 LMAO to anybody that thinks we are taking QB in first Rd.

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