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FA intro draft strategy

musicman

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I would like to sign only 1 main FA. Trey Flowers DE from NE. He could be that difference maker. He's probably gonna get about $14/15mil a year but I don't think the DE market will explode with so many DE's in the draft. He's young and experienced enough to give a 4 to 5 year deal with a lot guaranteed. 

I could see them signing low level deals for TE (just in case), WR (either tall or a burner) with experience and maybe a young LB who was more special teams for someone else ready to make the jump to starting or rotating (unless we keep Mayo). I can see them signing an experienced FA if they get a good deal or then drafting one in the mid rounds. I would doubt a 3rd round pick either. 

The draft is deep with defense rounds 1 through 3, so I would take LT as my top pick. Chances are we could get one of the top 2 -1st round top prospects.

Having Flowers would allow us to grab a DE or DT in the 2nd or 3rd. I could see those 3 picks being DE, DT & C. (DT if we don't resign Love, which I like).

RB's and WR's are deep 3rd through so we can get our RB then. I would still look at TE's early to mid. As much as I love Olsen we need a back up plan and even if he plays this year, having Thomas and another really good TE would be nice.  

I don't use names in the draft as I think the BPA in a position of need play into that. Who's rated the highest at the time we pick. 

 

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I would be happy to with Preston Smith as well. I thought he was the best 4-3 DE in the draft that year and I feel like he's largely been playing out of position in Washington's 3-4. Now before everyone starts screaming about Rivera talking 3-4, let me just say that first of all I'll believe it when I see it. Secondly, unless we completely overhaul our front seven, our personnel still fits a 4-3 front much better. IF we go to this hybrid front defense, I still expect it to be primarily 4-3 concepts with 3-4 concepts mixed in, probably primarily on obvious passing downs. The good thing about a guy like Smith is that even though I think he's likely best suited as a hand in the dirt 4-3 DE, he has lots of experience in the NFL standing up as a 3-4 OLB, so he can absolutely do either or. I think he'd be a really versatile piece for us and given the strength of the edge rusher draft this year as well as some other potential bigger fish in free agency, he's a guy we might be able to get for a relative bargain.

Basically, Preston Smith is my defensive Greg Olsen. He's THE guy I wanted in that draft that year and he went elsewhere and has performed decently but I think he has a lot more to offer in the right situation.

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16 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

the problem is so many teams have so much more cap room than we do, we'll likely have to overpay for a FA DE.

But I'm for it.

If it works.

I think we're to the point where we're forced to add an impact edge rusher. The only proven NFL edge rusher we have on the roster is Mario Addison and he's on the wrong side of 30 himself. We need to sign an impact FA and then still draft another one early.

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We're seeing a youth movement beginning here. And I would expect to see a few of our free agents (especially those available for compensatory picks) be allowed to walk. Honestly, I think it's not just a youth movement to clear some of the old lions out of the den, but possibly the first step in a rebuild in case Cam's arm doesn't pan out. 

We might see some folks go in FA that we wouldn't necessarily think as expendable. Darryl Williams, for one, could be allowed to test the market with the idea that Moton proved himself at RT and that a LT might be reachable in the draft. Trading up could be cheaper (with the rookie contract levels being set) than trying to either grab a tackle on the open market or resigning Williams.

I think Hurney 2.0 learned a lot from the time off and I think RR is seeing that this version of the team is pretty shop-worn and ready for a refurbish. 

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Considering how badly we have flailed around at OT for the past decade I certainly hope we don't get cocky and think that all of a sudden it's an easy spot to fill. As we we'll know, it absolutely isn't. If Daryl's knee doesn't check out or if some team wants to throw stupid money at him that's one thing but we can't let him walk with a healthy knee and a market value RT contract. That would be an incredibly stupid move.

Even if Cam's arm doesn't pan put and we have to rebuild, there's nothing better for the development of a young QB than a strong OL.

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20 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

I think Hurney 2.0 learned a lot from the time off and I think RR is seeing that this version of the team is pretty shop-worn and ready for a refurbish. 

How dare you even think that Hurney 2.0 is better than 1.0??!?!11?!/?  

I mean, we haven't won a Super Bowl since he came back!  How good can he be?  We need <insert cool dog here> from <some other team> to be a REAL GM!

#huddlelogic!

I'm there with you.  I think Hurney has learned and should do something better than he did before.

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LinvilleGorge

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1 minute ago, d-dave said:

How dare you even think that Hurney 2.0 is better than 1.0??!?!11?!/?  

I mean, we haven't won a Super Bowl since he came back!  How good can he be?  We need <insert cool dog here> from <some other team> to be a REAL GM!

#huddlelogic!

I'm there with you.  I think Hurney has learned and should do something better than he did before.

I certainly hope so. Right now, I'm mixed on my opinion. His draft last year looks very strong, but his free agency class pretty much looks like vintage Hurney. At least we didn't throw huge money at anyone.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I certainly hope so. Right now, I'm mixed on my opinion. His draft last year looks very strong, but his free agency class pretty much looks like vintage Hurney. At least we didn't throw huge money at anyone.

and only time will tell with the draft

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Just now, musicman said:

My point is, if we don't have a lot of money, just make 1 signing that's worth it and go young everywhere else. We have enough vets to hold it together. LT in the 1st is my thought if we sign a real good FA DE. The youth moment is on.

My point is don't let a quality young OT walk if he's healthy and some other team doesn't offer insane money. Then you can go elsewhere with that 1st rounder. The whole bird in hand theory.

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