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2003 Panther appreciation thread (Warning video may cause tears)
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WarPanthers89,
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Did I mention that he was on worse teams? Yes. Do QBs alone win games? No. Did Cam, on a much better team with some awesome defenses ever have 2 consecutive winning seasons? No. So now you are cherry picking, If the overall stats are similar, you take a look at him. I told you that you look at his skill set---but you wanted to tell me that he sucks and mentioned performance. I just presented performance--and his numbers are very similar to Cam Newton's numbers--a player most call the best Panther QB ever--and I agree. By the way, Fumbles are evidence of how bad his OL has been--so you are saying that a QB in a situation worse than Cam's who has stats and physical abilities very similar to Cam's should not be given a look when you have Bryce Young at QB? You are going with that story because you simply talked your way into a corner and now you are trying to save face. No good GM would do what you suggest because "he sucks." Sorry, but the facts do not support you. But no matter what eye-opening details I provide, there are some who are going to go their Google machines to try to find some reason to support an ignorant approach to developing the QB position. You ignored the similarities to Cam and went cherry picking. I know what you are doing--but I am only suggesting (as I have stated before) that we bring him in as one of three approaches to resolving the QB issue. Compete with Bryce and draft a QB. Basically, I am suggesting that Jones has the potential to replace Dalton and compete with Young. He is a battered stock that could get better in a better situation--that is human nature. Instead, I am called a Daniel Jones lover and superfan. That is good debate--But a real sign of mature thinking is the inability to LOGICALLY consider alternative perspectives--which is actually a characteristic of intelligence. Just so you know, I critique and perform research in my job. I am often amazed at how the numbers do not support my suppositions. I learned that my impression is often wrong until I look at the data. In this case, I have considered all the important variables and he should get a shot. Numbers don't lie--and when you and others resort to twisted name calling directed toward the poster--it verifies my position. -
By HPPantherzfan · Posted
I don’t get this, I know that is the popular thought process but I just don’t think it’s true. For instance head to head last year the ACC had a winning record against the SEC. The SEC had a losing record in bowl games. This year so far the head to head is 2-3 SEC and that’s with a fluke Vandy win in week one. I see the ACC taking another head to head winning season after next week. The SEC is mostly hype with 3 good teams, in my opinion. But to say any ACC team would get exposed I believe is a stretch -
What the hell? How is presenting Cam's stats hating him? The point is not to hate Cam, it is to show you how similar Jones is to him and why you take a look at him. I mentioned Jones has the skill set to take a look--the response is, "look at his 5 years of performance." So I compare him to the greatest QB in franchise history, and the stats are similar--while Jones was in a worse situation. Now that is "hating?" Come on. This is a meritless, ignorant, personal attack because you are wrong. Just stop it. You all attack the poster when you have nothing. So saying "we should consider a guy with similar stats and size to Cam Newton" is now hating Cam and making me a Jones super fan- that is just stupid.
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