Jake Peetz named new RB coach

[Moo Daeng]

1 hour ago, Mage said:

Rivera hires an experienced retread?  "Typical Rivera.  Not willing to go outside of the box."

Rivera does what another poster literally suggested above and hires someone as an assistant so they can learn and go up the ladder?  "Wow, Rivera playing favorites and loyalty.  Typical Rivera."

Rivera hires a young outside mind from a strong program.  "He has no experience."

 

More evidence people just like to complain without thinking.

Here's your young offensive mind they found a way to get on the staff. People should be optimistic. 

[Moo Daeng]

Mr Scot's thing with Richard Rogers is funny. As if he is the sole judge of the details he doesn't have the slightest knowledge of.

[Moo Daeng]

And no, the McDermott hiring was not universally hailed. Not even close to the reality. 

Proehl was popular only because he was a popular role player and made that catch against Jax. Ultimately he didnt develop any WR. Huddle enthusiasm of a hire is irrelevant to the results.

[TheSpecialJuan]

[Moo Daeng]

1 hour ago, MasterAwesome said:

 

 

So....by your own logic, why are you constantly trashing Rivera’s decision to promote Washington to Defensive Coordinator? You think 7 largely successful seasons as our d-line coach (arguably the most important part of a defense) doesn’t qualify him as having:

a) Ascended up the ladder, and

b) Some qualification for the position

?

Or are you really gonna drag that decision through the mud simply because it ultimately didn’t work out? What a nice little bubble of infallibility you must live in where you can just sit back and wait to see if a decision pans out or not, and then retrospectively go back and trash it as being a display of poor judgment.

Scot liked Washington and regularly named him in his lists of successors for DC. Then it didnt work so well his first season and he used it to trash Rivera.

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Moo Daeng said:

Scot liked Washington and regularly named him in his lists of successors for DC. Then it didnt work so well his first season and he used it to trash Rivera.

Yeah. Why would you blame the guy who made the bad decision for the decision? 

(I wonder sometimes if people have any clue how moronic they sound)

For the record, I hoped Rivera would be great too. He isn't.

[The Natural]

I'll bet we didn't even reach out to Bill Cowher about taking this position! WE ARE THE WORST!

[Wolfcop]

4 hours ago, Mage said:

Rivera hires an experienced retread?  "Typical Rivera.  Not willing to go outside of the box."

Rivera does what another poster literally suggested above and hires someone as an assistant so they can learn and go up the ladder?  "Wow, Rivera playing favorites and loyalty.  Typical Rivera."

Rivera hires a young outside mind from a strong program.  "He has no experience."

 

Was thinking the same thing 

[MasterAwesome]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I didn't. At the time the decision happened, I was behind it, same as pretty much everybody.

But it turns out it wasn't a good decision. And yes, Ron Rivera gets the blame for that. Also for not doing something about it sooner when it was pretty obvious Washington wasn't up to the task.

It's better to have somebody who's experienced, but that doesn't guarantee success any more than anything else does.

And suggesting that just because somebody who had experience didn't work out we should therefore go with somebody else who doesn't have experience is just stupid.

So you’re saying we shouldn’t trust Rivera’s judgment because he thought Washington would be a good Defensive Coordinator and promoted him....but then you acknowledge that most everyone on the Huddle (including you) was excited for the Washington promotion and thought he would be a good defensive coordinator....therefore you’re also calling into question the judgment of everyone on the Huddle, which would undermine every opinion on every hire that you and everyone else lays out. You’re calling into question his JUDGMENT...the same judgment that he shared with everyone in here...the only difference is that he had the power to actually make it happen. Every time you and everyone else in here roll your eyes at a Rivera coaching hire, I’m just gonna say “I’m sorry but you expect me to respect the opinion of someone who thought Eric Washington would be a good defensive coordinator? Riiiiight....”.

You can’t call Rivera an idiot for making a decision that everyone was unanimously behind, without also calling everyone else an idiot including yourself. Washington was a good candidate for that promotion and earned his opportunity. Turns out he isn’t a great fit for defensive coordinator...oh well, it happens. Doesn’t make it a stupid decision to have promoted him. Do you judge a GM solely by every one of his failed draft picks too? Or is that kind of treatment reserved for Ron?

Seriously...saying Ron has terrible judgment cause he hired/promoted Mike Shula, Eric Washington, and Richard Rodgers is wayyyy more of a stretch than saying something like Gettleman was a terrible drafter because he drafted Kelvin Benjamin, Shaq Thompson, and Vernon Butler in the first round in three consecutive drafts. Except I know you would never validate that opinion because your rationale is entirely predicated upon double standards and biases.

Don’t give me that crap about Rivera waiting too long to demote Washington. Rivera was crucified for hanging onto Mike Shula for so long (perhaps rightfully so) and this time, he demotes Washington less than one full season into his FIRST year as defensive coordinator...tell me how many times that happens? In NFL terms, that is considered incredibly quick for taking action. In the real world, you don’t demote the first-year defensive coordinator of a 7-3 team. But then again, you supported the Eric Washington hire so how am I supposed to take you seriously?

 

Also I have no idea what you’re getting at with your last paragraph...that doesn’t align with anything I’ve said anywhere. So I’m gonna assume you were responding to someone else.

[rayzor]

At least it wasn't an internal hire. Just wish I had more faith in the guys making the decisions.

[Mr. Scot]

7 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

So you’re saying we shouldn’t trust Rivera’s judgment because he thought Washington would be a good Defensive Coordinator and promoted him....but then you acknowledge that most everyone on the Huddle (including you) was excited for the Washington promotion and thought he would be a good defensive coordinator....therefore you’re also calling into question the judgment of everyone on the Huddle, which would undermine every opinion on every hire that you and everyone else lays out. You’re calling into question his JUDGMENT...the same judgment that he shared with everyone in here...the only difference is that he had the power to actually make it happen. Every time you and everyone else in here roll your eyes at a Rivera coaching hire, I’m just gonna say “I’m sorry but you expect me to respect the opinion of someone who thought Eric Washington would be a good defensive coordinator? Riiiiight....”.

You can’t call Rivera an idiot for making a decision that everyone was unanimously behind, without also calling everyone else an idiot including yourself. Washington was a good candidate for that promotion and earned his opportunity. Turns out he isn’t a great fit for defensive coordinator...oh well, it happens. Doesn’t make it a stupid decision to have promoted him. Do you judge a GM solely by every one of his failed draft picks too? Or is that kind of treatment reserved for Ron?

Seriously...saying Ron has terrible judgment cause he hired/promoted Mike Shula, Eric Washington, and Richard Rodgers is wayyyy more of a stretch than saying something like Gettleman was a terrible drafter because he drafted Kelvin Benjamin, Shaq Thompson, and Vernon Butler in the first round in three consecutive drafts. Except I know you would never validate that opinion because your rationale is entirely predicated upon double standards and biases.

Don’t give me that crap about Rivera waiting too long to demote Washington. Rivera was crucified for hanging onto Mike Shula for so long (perhaps rightfully so) and this time, he demotes Washington less than one full season into his FIRST year as defensive coordinator...tell me how many times that happens? In NFL terms, that is considered incredibly quick for taking action. In the real world, you don’t demote the first-year defensive coordinator of a 7-3 team. But then again, you supported the Eric Washington hire so how am I supposed to take you seriously?

 

Also I have no idea what you’re getting at with your last paragraph...that doesn’t align with anything I’ve said anywhere. So I’m gonna assume you were responding to someone else.

Yeah, I'm not interested enough in what you have to say to read all of that.

So...Nah.

 

[Waldo]

17 hours ago, Mage said:

Your post implied you wanted him to hire someone you had heard of.  And I'm saying I doubt you have heard of 99% of the position coaches in the NFL, so why does it matter?  You act as if he hasn't coached in the NFL before, which he has.  

And where do you think coaches come from?  They have to start somewhere.  Who cares if he was in college?  Nobody complained when we hired Lance Taylor.

My post implied I have 0% faith in Rivera or Hurney. We just threw coaches under the bus to protect Ron's friends and cover his own butt. The fact that I am ready to take a flyer on new football people in this organization isn't where my problem lies, it's waiting to do so from the top down. 

[Unbreakable Split Glass]

We’ll draft one of the Bama’s RBs now. Give me Harris. Kid is a stud. 

If not, I like Holyfield a lot in the 3rd. If not, sign Carlos Hyde. We need another complementary back to go with CMC.

[MasterAwesome]

5 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, I'm not interested enough in what you have to say to read all of that.

So...Nah.

 

If you haven’t noticed, the length of my posts are directly proportional to how absurd and unintelligible your arguments are.

Most people who feel confident in their arguments are eager to engage in debate, tearing apart their opponent’s argument point by point...you know, like what I just did to you. But no, you have a clear aversion to legitimate debate which is very telling of how much you even value your own opinions.

I mean...did you really just pull something from the playbook of a 4-year-old kid sticking his fingers in his ear, screaming “lalalalala” when someone says something mean to him? And is that the same 4-year-old kid you apparently adopted your attention span and football acumen from? I really do enjoy our exchanges !