Kap's Attorney Predicts Panthers or Patriots Will Sign Him

[kungfoodude]

57 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

I bet the pats are glad they didn’t get a real NFL backup behind Bledsoe.

Yes and we all know there are just Tom Brady's around every corner. That is why 6th and 7th rounders have such an astronomical success rate.

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

I really don't want a media circus behind a back up QB.  Its the The Golden Calf of Bristol Effect.  The Golden Calf of Bristol was good enough to remain a back up qb in the NFL.  But due to the media circus, and every other reporter constantly asking about him, it just wasn't worth the disruption for a meh back up QB.  No coach wants the main focus of every media interview to be about his back up QB.

 

[Mr. Scot]

A couple of analyses written before the collusion lawsuit:

First, this srticle from Chris Wesseling in March 2017 in which Wesseling touts his activism but questions his ability...

Value of his activism aside, Kaepernick's skills are suspect

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After rewatching all 11 of Kaepernick's 2016 starts this week, I found no reason to believe he should have a more vigorous market than Cutler. Quite the contrary; it was exceedingly obvious why Kaepernick is not in demand as a potential starter.

In the hierarchy of hurdles to the league's 32 coveted QB1 openings, the fallout from Kaepernick's polarizing protest ranks a distant third behind passing ability and scheme fit. If multiple reports of a Kaepernick-centric schism in the 2015 49ers locker room are given credence in NFL front offices, the protest factor drops yet another notch.

What does the game film show?

 

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It would be disingenuous to take the position that Kaepernick is not a uniquely talented quarterback. He's an incredibly gifted athlete with Superhero-like physical attributes that infamously led ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski to predict all-time greatness in the halcyon days of the 2013 read-option craze.

A cannon arm should grant Kaepernick the ability to make all of the NFL throws. With each passing season, though, it becomes more and more obvious that Kaepernick is a limited passer lacking the requisite touch, accuracy, anticipation and situational awareness of a franchise quarterback. By Thanksgiving of last season, all throws to wide receivers outside the numbers and downfield had vanished from the 49ers offense -- an ostensible concession from then-coach Chip Kelly that Kaepernick simply can't make those all-important throws with any degree of consistency.

 

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As impressive as Kaepernick's 16:4 touchdown-to-interception ratio might seem without context, it reflects a remedial signal-caller being asked to make the simplest reads and easiest throws. A quintessential "see-it, throw-it" passer, Kaepernick waits for his targets to separate from coverage rather than anticipating the route and throwing his receivers open. As a natural byproduct of that playing style, third downs devolved into a wasteland of drive-killing sacks and ineffectual passes short of the sticks.

Over the past three years, Kaepernick has ranked 30th, 34th and 29th in Football Outsiders' passing efficiency metrics -- and just fractionally better in Gregg Rosenthal's QB Index.

 

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Beyond the passing problems, Kaepernick comes with a red flag unshared by any other established quarterback: He has yet to prove he can succeed outside the cozy confines of the zone-read attack, a gimmick offense in need of a committed champion now that Kelly is out of the league.

The bloom came off the rose in 2014. As defenses began to stifle the zone read and the 49ers grew concerned about the investment risk of a running quarterback, Jim Harbaugh's staff initiated a staunch commitment toward developing Kaepernick as a pocket passer. The transition was predictably fraught with growing pains, as a confused Kaepernick struggled with pre- and post-snap reads en route to a franchise-record 52 sacks.

Any realistic chance at a true metamorphosis withered on the vine as Harbaugh escaped to Michigan and the 49ers descended into ineptitude with an overmatched coaching staff and a depleted roster. As Rosenthal pointed out in his 2015 film study, the post-Harbaugh staff built an offense around Kaepernick's limitations, showing no confidence in his passing ability and field vision after a string of early-season struggles.

 

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"When he was good, he had a good team around him," NFL Network analyst Charley Casserly recently explained. "They could run the ball, they could block for him, they could pass-protect, they had an outstanding defense and people couldn't defend the read option.

"People defended the read option, the offensive line fell apart, the defensive line fell apart, and they couldn't run the ball. He had problems reading defenses ... he had problems with his accuracy. It became more [pronounced] when he had to become a pure dropback quarterback and the game depended more on him than it did [when he was a first-year starter in 2012]. That's what teams saw. That's what teams have said to me. And that's what I see, too."

 

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When Kelly arrived on the scene in January of 2016, he was widely hailed as Kap's personal savior, bound to induce nightmares in opposing defensive coordinators. Provided a custom-made offense tailored to amplify his strengths and hide his weaknesses, Kaepernick mixed occasional flashes of 2012-era brilliance with much longer stretches of ineffectiveness in a 2-14 season.

Now that Kelly and his zone-read attack have been banished from the NFL, teams are understandably skeptical that a quarterback riddled with deficiencies as a passer can refashion himself to operate within the structure of the pocket.

"If I'm a dropback team, this guy is just a guy to me," Casserly added. "Yeah, we can bring him in, he's another arm, we'll work with him. But I don't see a solution in this guy as a quarterback to be a starter in the National Football League from most of his tape."

Scouts and executives are charged with evaluating the game, not the name. The dysfunctional 49ers teams have won just four of Kaepernick's last 24 starts. The last time he exhibited sustained success, Dak Prescott was a sophomore at Mississippi State and Peyton Manning was a legitimate MVP candidate.

 

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Can pro football's leadership stand to learn a thing or two from the NBA's voices in the wilderness, bringing much-needed awareness to social issues? Absolutely. Are there NFL teams reluctant to sign Kaepernick because the drawbacks outweigh the potential benefits? No doubt.

But suggesting that all 32 teams are a monolithic monster holding the same venomous viewpoint on Kaepernick's potential as well as his politics is just another reflection of an agenda.

Contrary to our soundbite-shallow sports climate, one can appreciate the importance of the man's activism while acknowledging the salient football fact that he's an uninspiring quarterback.

 

And from Gregg Rosenthal a year before in March 2016, analyzing his starts from the prior year...

Does Colin Kaepernick deserve another chance?

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We went back to watch Kaepernick's starts from 2015 on NFL GamePass to see if we unfairly remembered his play, and the findings were grim.

 

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-- Take away all the subtle things Kaepernick can work on and you are left with the routine throw misfires. At least a few times every game, Kaepernick sails passes way over the head of his intended target. This often came on short throws, but also included plenty of throws deep into the sidelines (Kaepernick famously hit a 49ers staffer in the head).

-- These throws are a sign of something seriously amiss with mechanics. Kaepernick spent a lot of time during the 2015 offseason with quarterback gurus trying to fix his throwing motion, and his accuracy only got worse. It's hard to teach accuracy. Broncos coach Gary Kubiak and Bengals coach Hue Jackson are two of the best when it comes to quarterback fundamentals, and Kaepernick provides great tools to work with. But after 2015, it feels like they would be starting from scratch.

 

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-- The 49ers built an entire offense around hiding Kaepernick's limitations. Perhaps first-time offensive coordinator Geep Chryst was out of his depth, but he showed no confidence in Kaepernick after some early season struggles. Chryst was on the record saying he wouldn't even let Kaepernick attempt downfield passes on third-and-13. This is a five-year veteran who signed a contract that was worth up to $126 million only the year before.

-- A lack of protection also didn't help Kaepernick. He faced quick pressure too often and didn't appear confident with what was in front of him. It led to frantic decisions. Even when Kaepernick was protected well, he was often tentative and left the pocket too quickly. He waited to see a receiver wide open instead of trusting the play design and anticipating throws. These are the skills that separate the Jay Cutlers of the league from the top-10 quarterbacks. Can that be taught?

 

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-- The secret was out on how to stop Kaepernick. He was often forced to roll to his left and didn't respond well. Opposing defenses saw many of the 49ers' bootlegs coming. Kaepernick started eight games in 2015; the team scored seven points or less in four of them, with only a field goal in two of those contests. The 49ers had more punts than first downs in his game against Seattle. It wasn't modern football.

-- The most damning part of the tape was how much the 49ers limited Kaepernick. Against the Packers, he had one completion over seven yards. He was limited to half-field reads and short passes. The thrilling highlight reel player from a few years back rarely showed up.

 

So...yeah.

Another article from ESPN Senior Writer Mike Sando summed it up thusly.  Many analysts believe Kaepernick can be a 3rd Tier level quarterback if the offense is designed around him and accounts for his limitations, but he's only a 4th or 5th Tier QB otherwise. And since few teams will tailor their offense around a guy who isn't their starter, his value as a backup is limited.

Keep in mind also, these were written at a time when he was still recently active, not after an extended layoff.

[rippadonn]

Going from a Jim Harbaugh offense and looking like a world beater to a basically college gimmicky Chip Kelly offense shouldn't be a measuring stick for anybody. I'm not a Kaepernick fan by any stretch but to say he couldn't be a backup in the NFL is disingenuous.

Saying a grown man doesn't have the capability to learn an offense is tantamount to calling him unintelligent. The same underhanded and veiled attacks were and still are launched upon Cam Newton.

The real question should be does Norv think he's worth it? Can Norv do for him what he did for Cam? I'd venture to say yes. As a one year backup to a healing Cam Newton as insurance and a tradable piece after Cam gets better he may just be worth considering. Capitalize on the hype for once. Tepper isn't a billionaire because he does what everyone else does.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, rippadonn said:

Going from a Jim Harbaugh offense and looking like a world beater to a basically college gimmicky Chip Kelly offense shouldn't be a measuring stick for anybody. I'm not a Kaepernick fan by any stretch but to say he couldn't be a backup in the NFL is disingenuous.

Saying a grown man doesn't have the capability to learn an offense is tantamount to calling him unintelligent. The same underhanded and veiled attacks were and still are launched upon Cam Newton.

The real question should be does Norv think he's worth it? Can Norv do for him what he did for Cam? I'd venture to say yes. As a one year backup to a healing Cam Newton as insurance and a tradable piece after Cam gets better he may just be worth considering. Capitalize on the hype for once. Tepper isn't a billionaire because he does what everyone else does.

That's far from the only time Kaepernick's looked like an average at best QB.

And please...There are loads of guys who fail to learn how to run an NFL offense on an annual basis, the most recent example being Johnny Manziel.

Being an NFL quarterback requires a skill level that many guys who might be otherwise intelligent don't have. It's a big reason why loads of guys who look like world beaters in college fail at the pro level.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

would like to see it for the drama. team isn't winning anything with rivera as HC so may as well get on sportscenter another way.

[Turnip]

Lol he is the exact opposite of what the Patriots would be interested in picking up

[Moneyman321]

Not trying to start a riot but just stating a few facts here :

1. This franchise is in the south and has a strong conservative base

2. Many people will hate the panthers for life if they sign him 

3. Many people will love the panthers for life if they sign him 

4. Most of the people that will hate the Panthers will be the actual people that have supported this franchise from inception and are from the Carolinas. 

Not facts :

It would be a heck of a PR move by Tepper but it would be a bad one overall IMO

[JoePanther]

8 hours ago, steven8989 said:

He was never that great to begin with. He knew he was being benched so he had to do something. I might not know the truth but I think alot of people kinda see it's obvious what he was doing.

He was never great, but he took his team to the SB and beat Aaron Rodgers twice.

[JoePanther]

38 minutes ago, Moneyman321 said:

Not trying to start a riot but just stating a few facts here :

1. This franchise is in the south and has a strong conservative base

2. Many people will hate the panthers for life if they sign him 

3. Many people will love the panthers for life if they sign him 

4. Most of the people that will hate the Panthers will be the actual people that have supported this franchise from inception and are from the Carolinas. 

Not facts :

It would be a heck of a PR move by Tepper but it would be a bad one overall IMO

Do conservative care about winning more than whining? There was a time in AmeriKKKa, when Blacks weren't supposed to be QBs. Last time I checked, there's many of them right now ... including in the deep dirty South. Should we continue to live our lives, scared of conservative people? 

 

 

 

[steven8989]

30 minutes ago, JoePanther said:

He was never great, but he took his team to the SB and beat Aaron Rodgers twice.

Defense won those games not Kapernick, lol.

[JoePanther]

24 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

Defense won those games not Kapernick, lol.

Tom Brady was never great, because his defense just won the SB for him. How many yards did CK7 get in those games against Rodgers? Didn't break some records?

Flacco just got a job with Denver ... CK7 was 1 throw away from winning the SB instead of Joe. Since winning the SB, Joe has been one of the worst QBs in the NFL ...

[GeorgeHanson]

10 hours ago, rippadonn said:

Going from a Jim Harbaugh offense and looking like a world beater to a basically college gimmicky Chip Kelly offense shouldn't be a measuring stick for anybody. I'm not a Kaepernick fan by any stretch but to say he couldn't be a backup in the NFL is disingenuous.

Saying a grown man doesn't have the capability to learn an offense is tantamount to calling him unintelligent. The same underhanded and veiled attacks were and still are launched upon Cam Newton.

The real question should be does Norv think he's worth it? Can Norv do for him what he did for Cam? I'd venture to say yes. As a one year backup to a healing Cam Newton as insurance and a tradable piece after Cam gets better he may just be worth considering. Capitalize on the hype for once. Tepper isn't a billionaire because he does what everyone else does.

Tepper's a billionaire because he has massive intellectual horsepower...horsepower hitherto unknown to the people of this area but destined to take the place of the mudshark in your mythology....

....put another way, he is the most intelligent man in the room.

Kaepernick, naah...

[Moneyman321]

On 2/20/2019 at 6:35 PM, JoePanther said:

Do conservative care about winning more than whining? There was a time in AmeriKKKa, when Blacks weren't supposed to be QBs. Last time I checked, there's many of them right now ... including in the deep dirty South. Should we continue to live our lives, scared of conservative people? 

 

 

 

That’s not at all what I was getting at. Cam is our QB. It doesn’t have anything to do with race. You shouldn’t live life scared of anyone lol. 

But it’s not a misstatement to say that the majority of panthers fans do no support Kap and would not support his signing which would be detrimental to the teams bottom line for years to come which is what it’s all about.