Kaep/Reid Collusion Case Settled

[PanthersBigD]

1 minute ago, Happy Panther said:

 

What he said. If Goody can pay $100,000 to save $100,000 he will in a second. But that isn't what I would bet happened.

What happened is that Goody did exactly the very best thing for the owners.  Meaning he called a bunch of owners and asked if they wanted blood or wanted it to go away. 

Again the nature of a settlement means nobody will likely every know what really happened so it is all supposition.

Right, which is basically everything we argue about on the Huddle. FWIW, I agree with your assessment. I still say they got PAID. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Great now we can sign Kaepernick to backup Cam. 

[Krovvy]

1 hour ago, Anybodyhome said:

The case had nothing to do with any social justice or civil rights issues.

The case was based on a claim made by both parties that they were blackballed as a result of their stance on social and/or civil rights issues. Just because the case was settled doesn't mean both guys cannot continue to raise awareness or continue to further their cause.

Yeah, this "I guess it's not because of social justice" take I'm seeing everywhere is just plain stupid. How do people not understand the difference between suing the league for collusion, and their advocacy for social justice? Ridiculous.

[Happy Panther]

3 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

 I still say they got PAID. 

If I had to bet money I would say they got millions.

[RumHam]

0-16 here we come

[RumHam]

kaep and Arthur are on their way to Tahiti right now

[Matthias]

27 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

And Kaep/Reid are being paid personally.  For their silence.

Remember when Reid specifically said

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/sports/football/nfl-players-coalition.html?module=inline

But apparently its ok for the NFL to buy an end to the protests if Reid/Kaep gets paid.  Just not if Jenkins does?

The collusion case has nothing to do with the protests.  It was always about money, in that both players were excluded from signing with teams.

[Matthias]

29 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

And Kaep/Reid are being paid personally.  For their silence.

Remember when Reid specifically said

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/sports/football/nfl-players-coalition.html?module=inline

But apparently its ok for the NFL to buy an end to the protests if Reid/Kaep gets paid.  Just not if Jenkins does?

Now if we come into next season, and as part of this agreement Eric Reid stops kneeling, then you can say he sold out.

[Mr. Scot]

26 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

When you pay off two parties and make them agree to an NDA, you're basically admitting defeat. There's no reason for the NFL not to go ahead and dunk on Reid/Kaepernick if they could have. 

You're assuming that the confidentiality agreement was requested by the NFL. There's no way to be certain of that.

The only thing that can actually be known for certain is that both parties agreed to it.

[d-dave]

If there was zero proof of collusion/blackballing, the NFL would have run this out into court and played the good guys.

Instead of all the proof of the blackballing coming out in public, the NFL settled.

The NFL had zero incentive to settle unless some bad stuff was in the case.  The NFL saw that an open court case would expose them in ways they didn't want to be exposed.

Now they can continue to protest and work in the NFL.

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

14 minutes ago, d-dave said:

If there was zero proof of collusion/blackballing, the NFL would have run this out into court and played the good guys.

There was no way taking this to court, and even if 100% of evidence supported the NFL they would ever be seen as the good guys.

No one ever views corporate NFL as the good guys.  The NFL could donate 200 million to charity, on a whim.  And the response would be "well, they have enough money to throw around with all the money grabbing they do anyways".

[PanthersBigD]

28 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You're assuming that the confidentiality agreement was requested by the NFL. There's no way to be certain of that.

The only thing that can actually be known for certain is that both parties agreed to it.

LOL! That's like saying that there's no way of knowing that Richardson sexually harassed any of his employees because both parties agreed to the NDAs. If technicalities like that mattered, he'd still own the Panthers. 

[Mage]

1 hour ago, t96 said:

Sure. Then the message from Kap and Reid is it’s okay to blackball someone because of social justice protests as long as you pay out a settlement. Not exactly what Reid and Kap has been preaching previously...

Except they weren’t suing the NFL over social justice.  They were suing over allegedly being blackballed and not being signed to an NFL team.  Why would they not accept a cash settlement?  What else are they supposed to gain from suing?  It’s not like they agreed to stop advocating for social justice.

 

[Mr. Scot]

26 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

LOL! That's like saying that there's no way of knowing that Richardson sexually harassed any of his employees because both parties agreed to the NDAs. If technicalities like that mattered, he'd still own the Panthers. 

Yeah, there's actually no comparison between the two.

It's been noted many times that collusion is extremely difficult to prove. Add in that Reid having a job and getting an extension made his case pretty weak.

On the flipside, Florio also pointed out there could have been things the NFL wouldn't have wanted brought out in court. Thus, even if they thought they could win the case, the trial itself could have been embarrassing.

As it stands, the confidentiality agreement basically allows everyone to view this result as they wish, which is basically what you're doing.

As has been said, reality is that we don't know and we probably never will.