Kaep/Reid Collusion Case Settled

[JARROD]

54 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

The NFL paid them in exchange for their silence on the matter. I'd say they have something they don't want people to know.

Just a hunch.

That or it’s just something that either way dragged out just bags on perception, causes declined ratings, creates further distraction.

$60-100 Million is nothing to the NFL, pocket change. So making this stop so they can move on would be worth it.

quite a lot of lawsuits are unwarranted and frivolous, but the cost of ongoing court actions can cost more than the settlement, and the cost of the distraction is a much higher opportunity cost.

thats not saying this was frivolous— just saying settling out doesn’t always mean an admission of guilt.

it often costs 2-3 times the settlement to prove innocence in a lawsuit— this is cheaper, and doesn’t admit anything, and allows to move on.

its a business decision.

[Mr. Scot]

52 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

mike freeman cited "a number of nfl team officials" who speculate

Exactly.

People can speculate any figure they want. The actual number could be significantly lower. Heck it could even be significantly higher.

Either way, neither the league nor Kaepernick can say anything to correct it. Hence, I take it all with a grain of salt.

[electro's horse]

34 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Exactly.

People can speculate any figure they want. The actual number could be significantly lower. Heck it could even be significantly higher.

Either way, neither the league nor Kaepernick can say anything to correct it. Hence, I take it all with a grain of salt.

yeah, we dont know if it includes covering his legal fees, involves huge donations to various charities, whatever. 

blatant racism is enough to take down a sports owner in the US now, which is a good thing, and I'd be willing to bet anything something to that effect was going to come out in discovery. 

[electro's horse]

also just lmao at that aaf contract offer rumor that comes out right before this settlement announcement

if you believe that, kaep was asking for more than the entire league is making combined. it blows my mind how stupid some people are

[pantherphan96]

5 hours ago, Varking said:

The difficulty in proving that there is collusion is anything is through the roof so imagine the type of evidence they must have somehow gotten for the NFL to have to settle.

exhibit a: 

 

[Shocker]

17 hours ago, 4Corners said:

Yeah I don’t get how this “payoff” silences anyone. Unless there was some sort of terms in the NDA that said Reid can’t kneel anymore but I doubt that was included. Would be more bad publicity for everyone involved especially the NFL. 

#IStandWithKap

I should have said attempt to silence.

[PhillyB]

3 hours ago, bull123 said:

who cares...its settled and over

it's beyond obvious you care a whole lot lol

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

3 hours ago, bull123 said:

who cares...its settled and over

Looking forward to you never bringing it up ever again then 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

it likely is. kaepernick had no incentive to settle for peanuts when the league's actions cost him well over $100,000,000 in past and future earnings. the league doesn't have a history of rolling over and giving away money when they think they can win. no reason to think that has changed. kaepernick and reid together received a ton of well deserved money through this. you don't have to see paperwork to draw that conclusion. they probably received close to, if not entirely, what they were seeking. the nfl did not want this to get to discovery. of course kaepernick's team would have found evidence of collusion but even if they hadn't i doubt the owners would like for the underside of their league to reach a motivated player that they've caused harm in kaepernick.

Again, that's all speculation though.

Let's say the compensation they received is nowhere near that amount. There's no way they'd want that known. If that got out, people would be pointing at Kaepernick and saying "All that trouble and that's all you got?"

And then there's Mark Geragos, whose reputation is tied to how much money he gets his clients. If he gets lowballed, then the next guy who's looking at suing a high level employer looks at him and says, "After the way the NFL bent you over? No way."

(keep in mind this is the guy who months ago said and NFL higher up was going to flip on the league within a week, then apparently just never mentioned it again when that didn't happen)

Bottom Line: The only thing you can say with any certainty is that both sides saw confidentiality as being to their ultimate benefit. You can speculate as to why, but unless somebody breaks the legal agreement oh, you're never going to find out for certain.

Thus, everybody's free to spin this as a victory and people can theorize to their hearts content while the actual truth stays hidden.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

yeah, we dont know if it includes covering his legal fees, involves huge donations to various charities, whatever. 

blatant racism is enough to take down a sports owner in the US now, which is a good thing, and I'd be willing to bet anything something to that effect was going to come out in discovery. 

I lean in that direction. I kinda doubt they proved collusion, but it's not hard to imagine that in the process of trying, they got hold of something the NFL didn't want out there.

I'd get a huge chuckle if it turned out it was something related to Jerry Richardson. And yeah, I think that's possible.

[top dawg]

16 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

You'd have a lot better argument for the "assumption" if it had just been Kaepernick.

The whole premise of the lawsuits was that all 32 teams had agreed that no one would pay them to play in the NFL. Not only did a team pick up Reid, but they also signed him to a three-year, 22 million dollar extension.

Why would the NFL feel threatened by Reid's case given the circumstances?

Any lawyer worth his salt would say that Reid was hired in order to make a point after the NFL got caught with its pants down. 

 

[top dawg]

I do believe that the agreement was only about public discussion, not private ones. 

[Iron Saint]

3 hours ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

it likely is. kaepernick had no incentive to settle for peanuts when the league's actions cost him well over $100,000,000 in past and future earnings.

He was not going to make $100M over the remainder of his playing career, even if he would’ve never started protesting.

When the Broncos were negotiating a trade for him in April 2016, they set their number at $7M/year through the 2020 season meaning it was either a pay cut or sit at home a wait for a call after the 49ers cut you. No other team was going to offer him more after putting up a 10-14 record in 2014 and 2015, and this was all ever before his protest.

NBC Sports: Kap not willing to take Broncos' current pay-cut offer

3 hours ago, pantherphan96 said:

exhibit a: 

 

Peterman does suck major and complete ***, but Kaepernick had his own Peterman moments as well.

Finished that 2015 game against the Cardinals 9/19 (47.4% completion), 67 yards, and a 16.7 QB rating.

And there was the game against the Bears in 2016 where he threw 1/5 for 4 yards and then was promptly benched.

[PanthersBigD]

16 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

You'd have a lot better argument for the "assumption" if it had just been Kaepernick.

The whole premise of the lawsuits was that all 32 teams had agreed that no one would pay them to play in the NFL. Not only did a team pick up Reid, but they also signed him to a three-year, 22 million dollar extension.

Why would the NFL feel threatened by Reid's case given the circumstances?

Reid has actually proven that he’s a legitimate starter, after sitting untouched for months. Without collusion, there’s no way we pick up a starting safety of that talent level at that point in the season, off of the couch, for nothing. The fact that we just offered him a three year deal is even more damning, since it reinforces his value,  despite his being stuck on the couch when numerous teams could have used a good starting safety. People can still say, “well Kaep was never that good, so he doesn’t deserve a contract, it has nothing to do with collusion...” and he has no current body of work to refute it, but they can’t say that about Reid anymore. There’s also the issue of the multiple drug tests that point toward an attempt by the NFL to punish Reid for continuing to kneel. There was plenty of evidence for both Kaep and Reid individually.