Tanking does not work

[Eazy-E]

Here is a break down of the last 12 drafts and the all stars taken in the top 5. As you can see there is a better chance of drafting a bust than there is an All Star.

2018
1 Luka (will be allstar 100% next year)
4
2017
1 Tatum ( Will be an all star soon enough)
4
2016
1 Simmons (Can't shoot)
4
2015
3 Towns  D Russel(meh) Porzing(injured)
2
2014
1 Embiid (missed extended time injury risk)
4
2013
1 Oladipo
4
2012
2 AD Beal
3
2011
1 Kyrie
4
2010
2 Wall Boogie
3
2009
2 Griffin Harden
3
2008
3 D Rose (we all know the story) Westbrook Love (injuries)
2
2007
2 KD Horford (no longer an allstar)
3

The Sixers Tanked 5 seasons and still had to trade for 2 other All Stars to even compete and still wont beat the Warriors. Also every star the Warriors drafted was selected outside the top 5. That team was able to win a Championship before signing KD.

So based on facts and statistics, Tanking does not work. Good scouting and making correct draft picks does.

[Eazy-E]

Oh and I forgot to add only 3 of those players have won a championship. KD and Love didn’t win one with the team that drafted them. Irving and Love won a Championship in large part thanks to Lebron.

[Shocker]

5 minutes ago, Thelt said:

The draft is a crap shoot.  The more high picks you have the better your chances but there are no guarantees. 

Absolutely, we finally found a top player and half of the fans want to trade him to tank.  SMH.

[Eazy-E]

Hey @OldNorthPowelland @Daddy_Uncle I’m still waiting on some evidence or an example of tanking actually working.

[OldNorthPowell]

1 hour ago, Eazy-E said:

Hey @OldNorthPowelland @Daddy_Uncle I’m still waiting on some evidence or an example of tanking actually working.

I see philly doing good. Cleveland got Lebron. The bulls got Jordan. Think of all the elite franchise players picked top 3 in the draft. They mostly went to teams that tanked. Remember that. 

[GeorgeHanson]

4 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

Hey @OldNorthPowelland @Daddy_Uncle I’m still waiting on some evidence or an example of tanking actually working.

Cavaliers tanked and secured one lebron james in the draft.

[GeorgeHanson]

3 hours ago, bull123 said:

It is just pitiful that those 4 #1 picks suck so bad

Don't forget about Noah Vonleh....picked #9 in 2014.

[Ornias]

Tanking may or may not work, but what we are currently doing will never work either. 

[Eazy-E]

42 minutes ago, GeorgeHanson said:

Cavaliers tanked and secured one lebron james in the draft.

We tanked, had the worst winning percentage in nba history and still didn’t get the number one pick because it’s a total crap shoot and fug David Stern for rigging the lottery.

Kemba and AD would have had us in the top half of the east for the foreseeable future if the team was managed correctly. As we have seen though, that probably wouldn’t have happened. This team is historically bad at drafting so what good does tanking do us? Maybe Biz would have worked out better playing next to AD. I would hope most of our picks after 2012 would have been traded for established players to help build around a Kemba and AD core. We can only dream.

In reality big stars like AD end up leaving the team that drafted them without accomplishing anything to go form super teams and take the easy way out. So I would fully expect us to be in the same situation the Pelicans are in with Davis now. I would hope we wouldn’t be stupid enough not to trade him because I don’t think they will get a much better offer than what the Lakers offered. They can hold him for another year but he is gone regardless of what they do.

We should feel lucky that Kemba hasn’t demanded a trade to go chase rings with Lebron or who ever else because in today’s NBA there is no loyalty.

[GeorgeHanson]

8 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

We tanked, had the worst winning percentage in nba history and still didn’t get the number one pick because it’s a total crap shoot and fug David Stern for rigging the lottery.

Kemba and AD would have had us in the top half of the east for the foreseeable future if the team was managed correctly. As we have seen though, that probably wouldn’t have happened. This team is historically bad at drafting so what good does tanking do us? Maybe Biz would have worked out better playing next to AD. I would hope most of our picks after 2012 would have been traded for established players to help build around a Kemba and AD core. We can only dream.

In reality big stars like AD end up leaving the team that drafted them without accomplishing anything to go form super teams and take the easy way out. So I would fully expect us to be in the same situation the Pelicans are in with Davis now. I would hope we wouldn’t be stupid enough not to trade him because I don’t think they will get a much better offer than what the Lakers offered. They can hold him for another year but he is gone regardless of what they do.

We should feel lucky that Kemba hasn’t demanded a trade to go chase rings with Lebron or who ever else because in today’s NBA there is no loyalty.

The problems with the Bobcats tanking strategy was Michael Jordan pulled the plug on it half way through the process.  The financial pain due to lagging fan support became too much for him to bear and he did not see it through (takes more than 1-year).  

Spurs got Tim Duncan after a tank job, he stuck around.  If an organization is winning great players do not leave. 

Bottom line, Michael Jordan is not qualified to run an NBA franchise.  He lacks all the necessary tools...intellectual horsepower, education & training, business experience, proper funding....all absent.

Until he sells this team it will always be mired in mediocrity. 

Worst part is if the NBA had just chosen the Larry Bird Syndicate instead of checking the box with Bob Johnson the history of this franchise would be completely different.

The Stern foisted a 2nd bad owner onto us......SMH.

 

[djp14]

39 minutes ago, GeorgeHanson said:

He lacks all the necessary tools...intellectual horsepower, business experience, proper funding....all absent.

I know a couple of people who work for him, in the arena management area. They'll tell you he's a smart guy who runs a tight ship. In reality, the Hornets organization is pretty well run.

Except when it comes to actual basketball.

[GeorgeHanson]

20 minutes ago, Thelt said:

The Spurs did not tank on purpose the year they got Duncan.  David Robinson got hurt and they sucked but not on purpose.

Intentional or otherwise some consider it the greatest tank job ever:  https://clutchpoints.com/10-teams-tanked-nba-seasons-leading-franchise-players/

[Daddy_Uncle]

The NBA is a joke. It doesn't matter if you tank because the draft lottery is rigged. Then you have GMs that don't know what the fug they are doing and are just puppets for their clueless owner that only cares about his own brand. 

Also the NBA is a joke and the tanking doesn't matter because these super teams being put together to win championships. That's why every single year you have the same teams over and over and over in the Finals. Who gives a fug about the NBA anymore

[JakeDel5674]

8 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

The NBA is a joke. It doesn't matter if you tank because the draft lottery is rigged. Then you have GMs that don't know what the fug they are doing and are just puppets for their clueless owner that only cares about his own brand. 

Also the NBA is a joke and the tanking doesn't matter because these super teams being put together to win championships. That's why every single year you have the same teams over and over and over in the Finals. Who gives a fug about the NBA anymore

Well, since it's the 3rd most popular sport after CFB and the NFL. I would say a lot of people.