Panthers sign Eric Reid to 3-year contract

[raz]

2 hours ago, coralreefer_1 said:

have your forgotten when Minter played, and the league has changed? Surely you do realize in today's NFL such a player would spend half the season suspended.  Isnt it a regular lament that the NFL rules stifle defense and more of less make this a tag football game? But yeah...we need a head cracker al lthe drama that comes with him cleaning clocks on the field. It is almost as if you hope we because the dirty play Saints of the new decade. 

you are so strange.  i don't think you need me to have these conversations as they're imaginary

[Snake]

It's a OK deal imo. He's a OK player so I guess that averaged out. I would still like to see us draft a young S early.

[TheSpecialJuan]

6 hours ago, Bronn said:

Where/when has Eric Reid played dirty? I must've missed that.

The only thing I can think of that is even remotely controversial is when he got into it with Malcolm Jenkins. We can armchair QB that he should have contained that a little better.

But if you're talking about him laying out Ertz? Ertz tried to pull a cheap shot and got what he deserved for it.

The play was over and the whistle blown. Ertz was trying to retaliate on behalf of Wentz and got what he got.

This is the attitude Ron wants to bring to the D

[rico6]

Obviously.

 

Reid is talented, young and a spirited leader for this young secondary. Hopefully the front 7 woes are addressed this offseason so we can see the backfield finally feast.

[GeorgeHanson]

On 2/14/2019 at 9:44 AM, coralreefer_1 said:

we dont need highlight reel hits with a few Unsportsmanlike conduct penalties sprinkled in.  We need people that can tackle and cause turnovers. 

Agreed.

Fined 3 times in 12 games last season, he's developing a track record the franchise should not want to be associated with.

[Sub Zero]

On 2/14/2019 at 9:44 AM, coralreefer_1 said:

we dont need highlight reel hits with a few Unsportsmanlike conduct penalties sprinkled in.  We need people that can tackle and cause turnovers. 

Yes you do.. Every good defense has a hard hitting safety on the backend that will intimidate players over the middle..

[Sub Zero]

On 2/14/2019 at 9:48 AM, Manther said:

In addition our pass defense was atrocious this year.  When Reid has 7 interceptions like Coleman had in 15, I'll be his biggest cheerleader.  Yes I enjoyed watching him lay out Ertz, but we need a pass defense.

You know we had Roman Harper back there who was a hitter as well.. Also a better pass rush and A elite CB shutting down half the field when Coleman did that..

[Sgt Schultz]

Given the propensity for penalty flags on hard hits (even legal ones), I'm not sure a bone-jarrer is an asset anymore.  The league has almost legislated and interpreted that away, even since Harper was back there for us.

That said, I think our defensive woes were as much scheme related as they were on any one player, Reid included.  I said earlier he was not impressive when I saw him, but the reasons he was unimpressive were even shared by Luke at the time.  For Luke, that brought discussion of whether his bell had been rung one too many times.  Turned out a switch in defensive play calling solved a lot of those ills.

My own view is I would have like to have seen Reid resigned for a little less, but his contract is well below the "what were they thinking" line, so we are quibbling about very little.  And that assessment could change depending on what other FA safeties sign for going forward. 

[Mr. Scot]

33 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

Given the propensity for penalty flags on hard hits (even legal ones), I'm not sure a bone-jarrer is an asset anymore.  The league has almost legislated and interpreted that away, even since Harper was back there for us.

That said, I think our defensive woes were as much scheme related as they were on any one player, Reid included.  I said earlier he was not impressive when I saw him, but the reasons he was unimpressive were even shared by Luke at the time.  For Luke, that brought discussion of whether his bell had been rung one too many times.  Turned out a switch in defensive play calling solved a lot of those ills.

My own view is I would have like to have seen Reid resigned or a little less, but his contract is well below the "what were they thinking" line, so we are quibbling about very little.  And that assessment could change depending on what other FA safeties sign for going forward. 

Reasonable take...

[thefuzz]

2 hours ago, Sgt Schultz said:

Given the propensity for penalty flags on hard hits (even legal ones), I'm not sure a bone-jarrer is an asset anymore.  The league has almost legislated and interpreted that away, even since Harper was back there for us.

That said, I think our defensive woes were as much scheme related as they were on any one player, Reid included.  I said earlier he was not impressive when I saw him, but the reasons he was unimpressive were even shared by Luke at the time.  For Luke, that brought discussion of whether his bell had been rung one too many times.  Turned out a switch in defensive play calling solved a lot of those ills.

My own view is I would have like to have seen Reid resigned for a little less, but his contract is well below the "what were they thinking" line, so we are quibbling about very little.  And that assessment could change depending on what other FA safeties sign for going forward. 

This is where I am.  I have a suspicion that he will be inside the top 10 S's even after free agency....costing the team about 7.5M per season.

However, it's not nearly as bad, or as dumb as typical Hurney extensions and signings.

My concern is Ron and Marty valuing a SS more than most in todays NFL.

[TheSpecialJuan]

[TheSpecialJuan]

[Mr. Scot]

20 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

This is where I am.  I have a suspicion that he will be inside the top 10 S's even after free agency....costing the team about 7.5M per season.

However, it's not nearly as bad, or as dumb as typical Hurney extensions and signings.

My concern is Ron and Marty valuing a SS more than most in todays NFL.

I'd call that a legitimate concern.

Rivera has always preferred hard-hitting safeties over coverage safeties.

[Manther]

On 2/14/2019 at 10:45 AM, Mage said:

Our pass defense sucked because our coordinator sucked and our pass rush sucked, not because of anyone in the secondary.

All those contributed.  But many of the deep burns were clearly secondary's fault.  In the end.  Hoke was ass.  Washington out position.  RR obtuse.  The secondary was on par with the line.  Both sucked ass.