Panthers sign Eric Reid to 3-year contract

[kungfoodude]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25973483/safety-eric-reid-signs-3-year-deal-return-panthers

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What played a factor was that Charlotte reminds Reid of where he grew up in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and he got what he considered a fair market deal.

I CHANGED MY MIND. HORRIBLE SIGNING. HOW DARE YOU COMPARE ANYTHING IN NORTH CAROLINA TO THAT fuging SEWER THAT IS LOUISIANA.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Toolbox said:

Great now we just need a FS who doesn't suck ass.

I've been begging for a legit FS for years. It would've been nice to have addressed that before needing a near complete overhaul of our pass rushing corps.

 

[Lumps]

Yeesh overpaid but it’s only a 3 year contract which comes at a premium but still that’s a lot to sink into him if he plays like last year for 3 years straight which is how I’d look at it if I was Hurney.

[tgrfan01]

when your owner cares more about social justice than winning games

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, tgrfan01 said:

when your owner cares more about social justice than winning games

GTFO. If this was true Kaepernick would 100% be on the roster.

[Krovvy]

36 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Where do you come up with "heavy incentives"?

And let's be honest, there was a TON of tepedation after the fact on that Kalil's contract. Most of the hope was threefold. One, it was Ryan's brother. Two, Matsko had already succeeded with a reclamation LT on Oher. Three, Gettleman had already succeeded with a reclamation LT in Oher. 

The grass is always greener on the other side. Had we re-signed Kalil to that deal after having him play decently in one season the reaction would've been a lot different.

From what I've read there's a lot of incentives in the deal. Is that wrong?

Betting on Matt Kalil was absurd. He's never been a good left tackle in the NFL, even in his rookie season where he was just being overrated. Vikings fans were so happy when he wasn't re-signed. How often are fanbases excited to release an early first round pick, especially when it created a huge hole in one of the most important positions on a roster? Never, they knew he was garbage. He was coming off a season where he missed 14 games, and had hip surgery. It was STUPID, especially considering that Andrew Whitworth was on the market.

Go read those threads again. You're not going to find much trepidation, you'll find a lot of this fanbase rationalizing the deal as somehow greatly negotiated. 

[Basbear]

Last year Panthers cut Kurt Coleman, soon after saints signed him to a 3 yr 16 million pre-free agency. That proved to be a HUGE mistake. Not only was he vastly overpaid, but didn't get many snaps too. Picking his brain was very expensive.

Reids deal may be similar, or you could look at it like this- 4 yr 24million with 12 guaranteed. 

 

[Proudiddy]

Love it.  Next up, Big Daryl.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Krovvy said:

From what I've read there's a lot of incentives in the deal. Is that wrong?

Betting on Matt Kalil was absurd. He's never been a good left tackle in the NFL, even in his rookie season where he was just being overrated. Vikings fans were so happy when he wasn't re-signed. How often are fanbases excited to release an early first round pick, especially when it created a huge hole in one of the most important positions on a roster? Never, they knew he was garbage. He was coming off a season where he missed 14 games, and had hip surgery. It was STUPID, especially considering that Andrew Whitworth was on the market.

Go read those threads again. You're not going to find much trepidation, you'll find a lot of this fanbase rationalizing the deal as somehow greatly negotiated. 

There was still a ton of sentiment that Gettleman was a GM virtuoso back then that played into the reaction to Kalil's signing. Even with that, yes there was still plenty of doubt and hand wringing from more balanced posters.

Just like there's a lot of sentiment that Hurney is a disaster waiting to happen playing into the reaction to Reid's re-signing.

Yes, the Kalil sign-in was atrocious. Probably the worst move this franchise has made since the Sean Gilbert disaster.

[Oldmanrivera]

16 minutes ago, tgrfan01 said:

when your owner cares more about social justice than winning games

lol only in 2019 can someone be frustrated with a person caring about another persons well being.

I'm not saying that is the case with Tepper and this signing, just that this post comes off incredibly stupid.

 

 

[Sgt Schultz]

12 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

From what I've read there's a lot of incentives in the deal. Is that wrong?

 

From what I read (NFL.com) the deal is $22M over three years, $10M guaranteed, with incentives that could push it to $24M.  That doesn't sound incentive heavy to me, which is okay since we are not dealing with somebody showing decline and needing to prove he can still play in the NFL. 

On a different subject, I've seen people on this thread referring to him as a FS.  Correct me if I am wrong, but did they not sign him as a SS? 

[PantherNation123]

4 hours ago, Riv said:

If you like this signing, for that money, you are the one with an agenda.

An agenda of having a quality safety for the first time in years?  Sure, yes, that's my agenda.

[Black&BlueBubba]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The devil is always in the details. I expect this contract to basically be a two year deal with a team option for the third. $10M guaranteed likely means a $10M signing bonus which will be spread out at $3.33M per contract year. How the salary is structured will be interesting. I'm expecting it to be structure in a way that it costs us more to cut him than keep him in both of the first two years essentially guaranteeing him two years. Something along the lines of $2M/$4M/$6M. In that scenario, we could cut him after two years and save $6M in cap in that third year and he'd basically walk away with $16M after two years and we'd carry $3.33M in dead space that third year. Or, we could extend him or carry him the third year at a $10.33M cap figure.

Again, that's all pure speculation but something like that is what I expect. I'd be willing to bet there's more money in the form of roster bonuses involved as well.

Yeah it’s something closer to this than the people saying it’s 7.5 against the cap.  

Signing bonus is not held against the cap. Correct?  

[Proudiddy]

The price does seem a bit higher than I projected, but I'm still happy about it...  he is a great safety, now we just need a really good, young complementary FS to pair with him.