Mcshay’s new mock.

[ncfan]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Ferrell has probably the best technique of any of the Clemson DL. He just isn't a high level athlete.

I am not seeing a compelling case for him being the weak link in that DL.

He is a pretty dam good athlete as well.  Just the others on the DL are flat Freaks.  It wouldn't suprise me to put up similar combine numbers to Bradley Chubb.

[micnificent28]

3 minutes ago, ncfan said:

He is a pretty dam good athlete as well.  Just the others on the DL are flat Freaks.  It wouldn't suprise me to put up similar combine numbers to Bradley Chubb.

He isn’t like terrible as far as being an athlete but in a group full of freaks why would you not want one?

[Sub Zero]

Ed Oliver is still there for the taking.. Its like getting Arron Donald's.. And there is a strong 2nd and 3rd teir of edge rushers in the 2nd and 3rd round..

 

[ncfan]

3 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

He isn’t like terrible as far as being an athlete but in a group full of freaks why would you not want one?

Jist brcause your a "freak" athlete doesnt mean your automatically going to be a Stud.  

[LinvilleGorge]

43 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

He’s the hall of there defensive line, Lawrence and Wilkins were better football players than him. They garnered more attention and will probably go higher in the draft than him.

If you watched the Bama game, Ferrell got the better of that matchup with Jonah Williams and that was with Lawrence suspended.

[micnificent28]

10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Ferrell has probably the best technique of any of the Clemson DL. He just isn't a high level athlete.

I am not seeing a compelling case for him being the weak link in that DL.

He isn’t not a weak link... he’s just a high effort guy with technique. How’s far you can get vs guys that have that plus are top end athletes is why I don’t care for him. Technique can be taught, athleticism can’t. You can know what u know as much as you want(Everette Brown) but if you don’t have a dominate trait strength speed or the whole package what’s it worth in the first round?

[micnificent28]

12 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Jist brcause your a "freak" athlete doesnt mean your automatically going to be a Stud.  

Yeah but that’s like saying just because you have technique u can win against anyone. For my money your swinging in the dark either way. So at that point which is easier to teach, how to swim and rip or run a 4.5-4.6 and throw up 34 reps?

[TheSpecialJuan]

31 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Also...why are you using Todd McShay's top 10 as the basis for an argument at all? He is just some asshole with an opinion and a platform.

That's not very nice, sir 

[micnificent28]

33 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Also...why are you using Todd McShay's top 10 as the basis for an argument at all? He is just some asshole with an opinion and a platform.

He’s a A hole with a whole scouting department(scouts inc) who does this for a living under him. He’s been at it for years  and seems to hit more than miss in my opinion. So would you rather I listen to that or you?

[LinvilleGorge]

You don't have to be a freak athlete to be a great NFL player and plenty of freak athletes have been busts.

 

[micnificent28]

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You don't have to be a freak athlete to be a great NFL player and plenty of freak athletes have been busts.

 

I think that goes both ways...how many tech guys fail? how many average guys like myself fail because we simply dont have the athletic ability to dominate or compete. It's easier to do it with those gifts than without. So if im swinging on Julius Peppers in his prime or say....Wes Horton...i'm going with the guy with the freak talent. I know that wasn't a fair comparison but it's hard to name just high effort guys that make it.

[Pi = 3.1SHutYoMouth!]

Why did this secretly become another Rashan Gary thread again when it should be about Clelin Ferrell?

[Pejorative Miscreant]

13 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Also...why are you using Todd McShay's top 10 as the basis for an argument at all? He is just some asshole with an opinion and a platform.

Aren’t we all?  Some folks just have bigger platforms.   

 

Good point!

[mc52beast]

Don’t really know other teams needs but I’m hoping more than one qb goes before we pick. Gives us better odds of getting who we want.