Steve Smith: Jerry Richardson wanted Peppers, Fox didn’t

[Davidson Deac II]

5 minutes ago, pnthrs said:

Wow.  It’s really the off season. Tin foil hats and all. 

Yeah, some of this stuff is bonkers.

Example, the Panthers got Bersin because JR wanted him.  I think if JR actually wanted Bersin, we likely would have spent a draft pick on him.  

 

Fwiw, the real reason Peppers left is the Space Alien Overlords told him to.  

[Matthias]

For some reason when I read the title, I thought back to 2009, before Peppers went to the Bears.  That said, Fox had to be on that stuff if he didn't want Peppers in the draft.

[Moo Daeng]

56 minutes ago, pnthrs said:

So Jerry wanted Peppers and didn’t get his way but wanted Bersin and got his way?  This thread is full of stupid.  

Im yet to see one shred of evidence that Bersin was kept due to a Richardson tie.  Lots of wofford players he could have shown favoritism toward but didn’t. 

 

Wow.  It’s really the off season. Tin foil hats and all. 

It's entertaining to read the attempts to explain how the players the postee likes were obviously selected by the GM they like and anything else is obviously the meddling owner.

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, pnthrs said:

So Jerry wanted Peppers and didn’t get his way but wanted Bersin and got his way?  This thread is full of stupid.

I'm not sure where exactly you see this suggested.

The theory is that Richardson wanted Peppers and got him. John Fox wanted Quentin Jammer and did not.

[GeorgeHanson]

6 hours ago, PhillyB said:

non-story. jerry wanted lots of players who could make his business a buck by putting wallets in the stands regardless of what his coaching staff wanted on the field. 

Your thesis is flawed....

....the PSL's guaranteed "wallets in the stands", really made no difference who was on the field.  Lack of back-to-back winning seasons in a quarter-decade is evidence of such.

That said, if Ol' Jer' was relying on "players" to put "wallets in the stands" Peppers would been one he would have invested in.

[GeorgeHanson]

2 hours ago, Lumps said:

Bersin was from waffford...simple college loyalty.

AE from app state, simple. Local hero who would put butts in the seat and more tune in. Business strategy.

JR meddled like hell and never took the hard earned route of winning to create fans instead played it like a casual business and preyed on the weak...name recognition, local players, family atmosphere etc etc

thank god he’s gone

BRAVO!

[GeorgeHanson]

2 hours ago, Snake said:

Fact was he was right. Tepper is looking like he might be wrong in his personal moves.

"Personal moves"...?!?  (I think you meant "personnel")

Tepper has owned the team 7 months and you presume to know more about "personal moves" than a guy with one of the largest self-made fortunes in the world?

 

Hahahaha....

[PhillyB]

28 minutes ago, GeorgeHanson said:

Your thesis is flawed....

....the PSL's guaranteed "wallets in the stands", really made no difference who was on the field.  Lack of back-to-back winning seasons in a quarter-decade is evidence of such.

That said, if Ol' Jer' was relying on "players" to put "wallets in the stands" Peppers would been one he would have invested in.

lol

[Cookie Lyon]

How in the world would Smitty know this? Some of you are so gullible. 

[GeorgeHanson]

33 minutes ago, Cookie Lyon said:

How in the world would Smitty know this? Some of you are so gullible. 

No secrets in the kitty lair....

[Moo Daeng]

Richardson wanted Bersin on the roster to get the huge Wofford alumni in the stands.

Because being an alumni and having training camp there wasnt enough.

Got to get those Wofford wallets.

[GeorgeHanson]

1 hour ago, Moo Daeng said:

Richardson wanted Bersin on the roster to get the huge Wofford alumni in the stands.

Because being an alumni having training camp there wasnt enough.

Got to get those Wofford wallets.

That and 9/11 was a hoax too.....

[Krovvy]

7 hours ago, trueblade said:

I think you have to look at each instance and see whose fingerprints are on it. The moves you referred to seem to fit a gruff GM like Gettleman. I find it plausible he's most likely responsible for those situations. 

Matt Khalil, Armanti Edwards, Brenton Bersin, and the bevy of huge contracts given to aging veterans are some examples that come to mind of moves from a guy trying to run his business like a family. I find it plausible Richardson is most likely responsible for those situations. 

What this new revelation about the drafting of Peppers shows me is Jerry was every bit as meddling as someone like Jerry Jones and that has to be taken into account as we look at the history of the moves made during his time by both Gettleman and Hurney. 

You should look at Gettleman's moves, especially in free Agency for the giants. Giants fans aren't too happy when the players he let walk, or cut, and are especially not happy about some of the contracts he gave out to aging free agents. 

[GeorgeHanson]

11 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

You should look at Gettleman's moves, especially in free Agency for the giants. Giants fans aren't too happy when the players he let walk, or cut, and are especially not happy about some of the contracts he gave out to aging free agents. 

Getty has been the Giants GM for 1 year....it's way too early to pass judgement. 

Ditto Tepper as the owner of the Panthers.

Dolts will writhe around grimacing...smart folks will wait and see.