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CJ Anderson says Panthers didn’t do anything wrong


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Last spring, Anderson joined the Panthers under the impression — as was the coaching staff — that he would be used in tandem with starting running back/receiver Christian McCaffrey. But Anderson rarely saw the field while McCaffrey blew up, rushing for 1,098 yards on 219 carries and catching 107 passes for 867 yards.

”When I got to Carolina, it was a one-two punch, me and Christian McCaffrey,” he said. “He ended up emerging. ... (Being complementary) was supposed to happen, and it didn’t. 

“But Carolina didn’t do anything wrong. They brought me in (before releasing me) and told me that right in my face. They respect me enough as a player to keep it real with me and what went on, and what went wrong. And that’s fine.” 

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  On 1/29/2019 at 1:24 PM, PhillyB said:

CMC is awesome but i still think it's a reflection of the coaching staff that they couldn't figure out how to use a guy like CJ to make a positive impact on the offense. running CMC into the ground just seems spectacularly short-sighted.

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I originally thought so, too, but I am coming to a different understanding of the long game. You have to look past this season and the cap implications.

Had CJ worked out here and actually taken to the RB2 position (or even won the RB1 position) there's going to be not just one but multiple sturdy paychecks headed his way. We could literally have worked ourselves into a situation like we had with Stephen Davis and DeShaun Foster, or even worse, like Williams and Stewart. Two sizeable or two huge paychecks each season. That just doesn't fly and even if you can talk a non-bench player into vet minimums (not going to happen), each year that vet minimum gets larger and larger.

Running backs, good ones, are starting to command a premium on the market again and retaining them gets expensive. So how do you get good ones? You draft them, like CMC, and run them until the tread wears off and their rookie contracts expire. Let them roll out the door at four years or extend them at a team friendly number for the fifth. By the end of that fifth season, they start hitting that spot where the price tag goes up and crosses over the falling arc of injury and capability.

The league is going to be getting younger, quickly, as a way to combat the skyrocketing costs of star players versus the cap. The success of a number of young QBs on rookie contracts right now has to be something that a number of teams have to be eyeing closely. (Imagine what the Giants and Chargers are thinking when they cut those massive checks for their QBs, much less the Packers and Saints.) Heck, Nick Foles will come with a $20 million cap hit this season... as a premier backup.

Running backs are the same and wide receivers will eventually get there, too. CJ was released because he didn't work with our long term plans and we really weren't working with his. The guy fell into the best situation possible for him with Gurley having to sit out a couple of games. Will they retain him? Probably not for more than an extra season. 

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  On 1/29/2019 at 1:48 PM, Dex said:

We made the right call.

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Wholeheartedly disagree. I look no further than to the failures on 3rd and 4th and short, in particular in the Seattle game, when CJ could have been utilized to get short yardage 1st downs. It was so wildly frustrating to see the Panthers cut a talented veteran back and struggle in key situations where he could have helped.

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  On 1/29/2019 at 1:41 PM, Khyber53 said:

I originally thought so, too, but I am coming to a different understanding of the long game. You have to look past this season and the cap implications.

Had CJ worked out here and actually taken to the RB2 position (or even won the RB1 position) there's going to be not just one but multiple sturdy paychecks headed his way. We could literally have worked ourselves into a situation like we had with Stephen Davis and DeShaun Foster, or even worse, like Williams and Stewart. Two sizeable or two huge paychecks each season. That just doesn't fly and even if you can talk a non-bench player into vet minimums (not going to happen), each year that vet minimum gets larger and larger.

Running backs, good ones, are starting to command a premium on the market again and retaining them gets expensive. So how do you get good ones? You draft them, like CMC, and run them until the tread wears off and their rookie contracts expire. Let them roll out the door at four years or extend them at a team friendly number for the fifth. By the end of that fifth season, they start hitting that spot where the price tag goes up and crosses over the falling arc of injury and capability.

The league is going to be getting younger, quickly, as a way to combat the skyrocketing costs of star players versus the cap. The success of a number of young QBs on rookie contracts right now has to be something that a number of teams have to be eyeing closely. (Imagine what the Giants and Chargers are thinking when they cut those massive checks for their QBs, much less the Packers and Saints.) Heck, Nick Foles will come with a $20 million cap hit this season... as a premier backup.

Running backs are the same and wide receivers will eventually get there, too. CJ was released because he didn't work with our long term plans and we really weren't working with his. The guy fell into the best situation possible for him with Gurley having to sit out a couple of games. Will they retain him? Probably not for more than an extra season. 

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This whole post is one big nope.

Giving CJ a few carries a game != any sort of big pay day whatsoever.

There was no situation with Davis and Foster aside from the usual Panther nonsense. Foster had one good run and otherwise had 11 TDs and less rushing yards than good backs get in 3 seasons. 

Same with Stewart and Williams that wasn't a situation that was a usual Panthers failure of not releasing Williams.

Good teams don't have these 'problems' and the Rams won't either, your post acts like you have to pay a RB just because they do good in spot duty like it's mandatory and mandated from the league lol...

 

 

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  On 1/29/2019 at 2:04 PM, hepcat said:

Wholeheartedly disagree. I look no further than to the failures on 3rd and 4th and short, in particular in the Seattle game, when CJ could have been utilized to get short yardage 1st downs. It was so wildly frustrating to see the Panthers cut a talented veteran back and struggle in key situations where he could have helped.

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That's fair. I just think that part of CMC's success is making sure he gets enough touches. Just not enough to go around to a top tier back like Anderson. Didn't seem fair to him.

Value > Effectiveness?

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Leadership was stupid to not use him. Even dumber to let him go.

But as was mentioned elsewhere, Anderson has no reason to be upset. He's on a Super Bowl team and we're sitting at home.

If anything, he has more reason to laugh at the Panthers than be angry at them.

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