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Our First three picks in 2017 draft our best in team history?

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11 hours ago, Car123 said:

Exactly. If we find good dline pieces, get rid of Mike Adams, and Cam gets healthy again we could be turn into a contender.

Lol this team is not even close to being a contender. Even with Cam healthy our sorry ass coach will hold us back. Defense is terrible and needs a lot of work. Don't see playoffs next year either.

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2 hours ago, steven8989 said:

Lol this team is not even close to being a contender. Even with Cam healthy our sorry ass coach will hold us back. Defense is terrible and needs a lot of work. Don't see playoffs next year either.

Our sorry coach took us to the super bowl. All we need is a pass rush and a stable secondary and we'll be okay. We're not the Jaguars or the Browns of yesteryear. We have good pieces.

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Its too early to tell, but the future does look promising if we ever fix the oline and dline. I think the 2017 and 2018 drafts were great for the first few rounds , all we're really missing is a LT, LG C, and a great DE (which dont all have to be answered through the draft).

  • McCaffrey : Looks amazing and was arguably the best duel threat RB in the league in his 2nd year. Made gigantic improvements in power and always gaining positive yardage. May be the best pass catching RB in the game besides James White (NE). 
  • Samuel : May be the most dynamic player on the team, pretty much our version of Tyreek Hill if we ever fix the oline's pass pro problems and Cam gets back to 100%
  • Moton : Is great at RT and decent at LT, an absolute steal as a low 2nd rounder
  • Armah: As a 6th round FB, incredible value. Good blocker, and has decent speed and hands. 
  • DJ : Is a master at getting extra yards, fighting through contact, getting open. Only problem is his fumbling, once he gets over that he will be deadly. 
  • Donte : Had an incredible first half of the season, didn't do so well in some of the 2nd half but you cant put that all on him. Him picking off the 2 point conversion and running it back for a TD showed how game changing he can be. 
  • Ian Thomas : Was a steal in the 4th round, showed great potential as a pass catching TE 


If we win a SB or make some deep playoff runs in the next 3-4 seasons then I'd say yes. But as it stands right now we've won a total of 0 playoff games since the 2015 season ended. 

If we woudlve kept Butker and axed Gano 2017 would be up for the best Panther draft ever in 3-4 more years. 

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On ‎1‎/‎27‎/‎2019 at 12:23 PM, stbugs said:

It may be really close. Morgan and Jenkins had 3 great years and 2 more good years. The 2003 run immortalizes them but outside of Smith, they really didn’t have long great careers.

I think you're underselling Jenkins. 4 Pro Bowls, 2 First Team All Pros, 2 Second Team All Pros in a 9 year career.  That's a good career for a first round pick, much less a second rounder.

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

Jenkins made up most of those years I mentioned. He was definitely more valuable than Morgan. That said, I wasn’t including his good Jets year for us. Kawann Short has had a better career for us so far. I’m sure I’ll get a lot of disagreements but he has.

Also, I am absolutely not saying Jenkins was a bad pick or player in any way. It’s sort of sad looking at our draft history knowing that so far we only have 3 years (2001 and potentially 2017/2018) where the top 3 guys all contributed meaningful good years to the team.

Having 3 guys that were pro bowl/all pro within their first 3-4 years in the league with a 1st/2nd/3rd round pick AND going on to have a long successful career is more rare than you might think. I'd be interested to see how many other teams could make that claim and if so, how much more often they do it than us.

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2 hours ago, stbugs said:

Jenkins made up most of those years I mentioned. He was definitely more valuable than Morgan. That said, I wasn’t including his good Jets year for us. Kawann Short has had a better career for us so far. I’m sure I’ll get a lot of disagreements but he has.

Also, I am absolutely not saying Jenkins was a bad pick or player in any way. It’s sort of sad looking at our draft history knowing that so far we only have 3 years (2001 and potentially 2017/2018) where the top 3 guys all contributed meaningful good years to the team.

2002 had a good top 3 as well.

Edit: 2006 was pretty solid.

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