Bucky Brooks Mock Draft 1.0

[JawnyBlaze]

I’m usually very pessimistic of small DEs coming to the pros. I definitely thought Hunter wouldnt do anything and was wrong about that. So Sweat wouldn’t be my pick but I’m more open to it than I would have been in the past. 

[musicman]

D-lineman usually take a year or more to develop. Especially speed rushers who don't have that many more moves and usually need to bulk up. Don't expect any real contributions in 2019. We have some young guys developing. I would rather spend the money on a really good FA and get immediate results. Draft Saftey, maybe another big but fast LB who can rush the passer in a 3-4 set up. 

[cookinbrak]

12 hours ago, ncfan said:

Id honestly.....would......not.....be suprised if the Raiders packaged their other 2 1sts and made a play for him and move from Carr.  Chucky has really talked him up down here.

So if the Raiders offered us 24 and 27,  would ya do it?

[ncfan]

59 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

So if the Raiders offered us 24 and 27,  would ya do it?

Depends who is on the board at 16.

[JARROD]

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

Sweat made Dillard look bad. Williams didn’t really impress me in the title game. I’d much rather have Sweat in the first and then go tackle later. Then again I really hope Williams is healthy and we resign him so we can go C/G and improve the entire OL. Cam would have fared a lot better with a healthy Williams and Moton at LT last year. Throw in a solid C and LG and we are talking now.

Personally with the heavy Dline in the draft and the shortage of offensive lineman, if we don’t get a tackle or bad ass right that can move to Left later first and take a defensive end or tackle,..

then what probably happens is Dline and DB and maybe a center for the first 4 picks.

when I say center, a quality C/G. 

And we will see how it goes— it’s tough for us as fans to watch a game, tape or even scouting reports— hell its tough for people that get paid to scout full time.

KB was the savior clutch in his title game— everyone even knew where Winston was going with the ball, the defense knew too— and he was still unstoppable.

after his first season,..a dud,.. flash in the pan.

so maybe Williams didn’t impress in the title game— doesn’t mean he’s a dud and Sweat is a stud.

or maybe it’s a duck that walks like a duck.

who knows 

[AU-panther]

2 hours ago, cookinbrak said:

So if the Raiders offered us 24 and 27,  would ya do it?

Most likely yes but wouldn't really work out according to the trade value charts they all use. Would be heavily favored to us.  In reality they would probably want our 2 3rds.

 

[AU-panther]

7 minutes ago, stbugs said:

You never know. Hopefully you feel more confident. I absolutely feel more confident in Sweat than the top tackles. I really hope Williams is truly healthy and we can resign him. I think with our 2nd, 2 3rds and 4th that we can get both a solid C and a solid G. That would give us a line like Moton, Lindstrom, McCoy/Bradbury, Turner and Williams. That’s not unreasonable given the mocks I have seen and maybe a little trading up.

If we had that OL and Sweat, a DT and a CB or S with the 1st and other 2 picks in those 4 above, I’d be ecstatic. 5th and 6th could be potential T depth like Crosby last year (Detroit grabbed him in the 5th). A draft like that could be huge but it hinges on getting the right guys and getting something done in FA.

Best case we are both hoping for same thing, resign Williams, draft a DE, DT, and some combination of CB, S, C, or G.

but

If we don't resign Williams that changes quick.  I'm not sure I want to wait too late in the draft to draft a tackle.  If I think Moton can play LT then I might be able to wait until 2nd or 3rd for a RT.  If I think I need to draft a LT though I have to consider that 1st round pick, which I hate, because I think there is a chance of there being a really good pass rusher there.

Resigning Williams might be our biggest free agency priority.  Not only does it help us on the field but it opens up the draft for us some.

[MHS831]

8 hours ago, bandu said:

i look for Hurnery to sign a marquee DE in FA & go BPA in the first.after that he will begin filling holes accordingly.

Me too.   If you read the tea leaves based on personnel decisions in 2018, we may not be re-signing Funchess or Williams (not sure, but we kept Moton at RT).  We should have cap room to sign a good DE.

 

[JARROD]

45 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Best case we are both hoping for same thing, resign Williams, draft a DE, DT, and some combination of CB, S, C, or G.

but

If we don't resign Williams that changes quick.  I'm not sure I want to wait too late in the draft to draft a tackle.  If I think Moton can play LT then I might be able to wait until 2nd or 3rd for a RT.  If I think I need to draft a LT though I have to consider that 1st round pick, which I hate, because I think there is a chance of there being a really good pass rusher there.

Resigning Williams might be our biggest free agency priority.  Not only does it help us on the field but it opens up the draft for us some.

I agree with all that and especially about an early OT.

as it’s pointed out repeatedly, there’s a shortage of OT in the draft, so later rounds are tough unless we get a gem that dropped.

our Williams obviously will be the key to a lot, but for me still if the BPA is between a DE and OT,.. knowing that more DE and DT will be available later, I’m taking the OT.

if the DE is far superior and the OT is someone being taken 20 spots early then the DE for sure. Or CB or 3-4 DE/DT.

getting a good C/G is important too.

the first 4 picks we can all agree need to be players that can change our game immediately.

[TheSpecialJuan]

16 hours ago, ncfan said:

Haskins is going to be the first QB off the board.

Word on the streets down here at the seniorbowl.  Elway Loves him some Lock.  There is also a quote out there from Elway about drafting a QB so soon after the Paxton Lynch disaster.  He said he "plans to keep on swinging for a QB"

The Duke kid has the tools, has been up and down this week.  Learned from a QB guru and both the Mannings have taken him under their wing

Also, the Murray hype is real among teams.  Kid wasnt going to play football unless there was a real shot of him going top 20.  Kid has a ARM, people are liking his arm like Mahomes.  Scouts see him as a more athletic, stronger armed Russell  Wilson.  And after watching Wilson tear up the probowl skills challenge yesterday. Scouts are drooling for this kid.

Id honestly.....would......not.....be suprised if the Raiders packaged their other 2 1sts and made a play for him and move from Carr.  Chucky has really talked him up down here.

 

He comes to the combine and slings it like people expect, and runs a 4.45 or faster.  Even if he measures 5'10 185 with small hands.  Ots going to be buzzing.  If he comes 5'11 190+ and runs a sub 4.5 he is going to SHOOT up.

I still say magic number will be 3.  Could even be more as there are a few teams in big need for a QB

Right now

Gettleman is feeling HEAT to get a QB.  They were all over him to get one last year. Dont see him passing up with the way Eli played this year.

The Redskins, Alex Smith playing future is uncertain.  And behind that who knows

Elway is on Record he is going to keep swining for a QB.  And has personally been down here this week to watch them

Jax- is in desperate need for a QB.  And a trade is something I dont see happening.  They are trying to restructure deals JUST to get Under the salarycap for next year.  They cant take on a bigger FA QB.  Needs to be a rookie

Miami, has sent Marino to the senior bowl to watch the QBs

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/22/dolphins-send-dan-marino-to-senior-bowl-to-look-at-qbs/

Great stuff 

[MHS831]

1 minute ago, JARROD said:

I agree with all that and especially about an early OT.

as it’s pointed out repeatedly, there’s a shortage of OT in the draft, so later rounds are tough unless we get a gem that dropped.

out Williams obviously will be the key to a lot, but for me still if the BPA is between a DE and OT,.. knowing that more DE and DT will be available later, I’m taking the OT.

if the DE is far superior and the OT is someone being taken 20 spots early then tbe DE for sure. Or CB or 3-4 DE/DT.

getting a good C/G is important too.

the first 4 picks we can all agree need to be players that can change our game immediately.

We are all making assumptions (we have no choice) but many think Moton goes to LT and Kalil gets cut if we re-sign Williams.  I am not so sure. 

I am not sure what we are going to do, but the OL and DE will be priorities. C is more important than many realize.  Cam did better with Ryan on the field.  I  want to see a vet C, a LG, and a LT.  That is a lot.

Priorities

1.  DE
2. LOT
3. C
4. S
5. CB/Nickel
6. another DE
7. LG

[AU-panther]

5 hours ago, MHS831 said:

We are all making assumptions (we have no choice) but many think Moton goes to LT and Kalil gets cut if we re-sign Williams.  I am not so sure. 

I am not sure what we are going to do, but the OL and DE will be priorities. C is more important than many realize.  Cam did better with Ryan on the field.  I  want to see a vet C, a LG, and a LT.  That is a lot.

Priorities

1.  DE
2. LOT
3. C
4. S
5. CB/Nickel
6. another DE
7. LG

If we don't resign Williams do you still feel LOT is second?

 

[L-TownCat]

On 1/25/2019 at 4:55 PM, Waldo said:

6"6" 245 lbs? That's not Peppers replacement but Addison's. Not trying to hate on the guy, but show me a successful sub 250 lbs strong side 4-3 DE and I'll start looking at this guy as a possibility to replace Peppers. I would think 270 lbs for the strong side would be a minimum playing weight. Again, not saying he is not a good player, just not a NFL strong side DE. Anyone have any facts to disprove this?

No, but Hurney loves him some undersized DE's.  #EveretteBrown

If Sweat is sitting there at 11-13, Hurney is gonna be twitching to trade away a 1st to get him.

[Pantha-kun]

This mock has Jonah Williams going right after our pick, I would be pissed if we skipped on him for Sweat. 

I'm sick of our pass protection being our achilles heel for the past several years. I think we need to invest a couple of high picks this year in oline (in rounds 1- 3) considering Ryan is gone and D.Williams could also be gone, and we dont have a long term answer at LG, this is a recipe for Cam to get killed again. 

I'd love to go OT in the 1st, DE in the 2nd, and G/C in the 3rd. A lot of the top interior olinemen in this draft are projected to go in the mid rounds right now (rounds 2-4). 

You're falling prey to the recency bias if you're just evaluating J.Williams and Sweat on the Senior Bowl and NCCG. 

I'd get J. Williams to play LT,  put Larsen at LG, get that Center from Wisconsin in the 2nd or 3rd , and have Trai at RG aand Moton at RT. That a young dominating oline IMO. I'm willing to let the pass rush suffer for another season if it means finally shoring up an Oline thats been mostly suspect for the past several seasons.