Mel Kiper's First 2019 Mock - 01/17/19

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, stbugs said:

Awful pick. A guy who could grow into a DE? 

Even if any team were looking for that type player, (as another poster stated) Montez Sweat 

[RumHam]

Kiper knows stats, but would fail as a GM or talent evaluator. Did anyone else read this in his voice?

[Snake]

So are we moving to a 3-4?

[BudFox]

Talent evaluation is not Kiper's forte (eg. Jimmy Clausen and Ricki Stanzi, which by the way, he should be retired right?), but if you just look at how the picks land with each team, his odds are about average, so not sure why this guy gets the hype.  

 

[bandu]

well many moons ago Stalin had  a group of scientist create these human ape hybrids whom had the intellectual ability to evaluate talent better than Mel Kiper.

[JARROD]

27 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I’m not down for that. The 4th best tackle in a class that’s just OK. Maybe I’m missing it with these tackles but it doesn’t feel like they are that good. That said tackles are always ranked way high in pre-draft rankings. Cam Robinson was top 5 and Orlando Brown was mid first before combines and workouts.

If like Moore last year we are picking whatever WR we want, that’s fine at least we are getting the guy we think is the top tackle. If we do that we damn well better not have signed Williams and we better be going hard at one of the FA DEs.

 Down with getting one of the FA DE, they tend to take a couple seasons before they really season anyway.

Frank Clark or one of them would work out just fine for us— the dude from Phily too— Phily is 12 million over the cap right now so I don’t see how they keep anyone(strange things happen).

Greg Little the OT, I’m all about a LT if we could get a good one— 

some of his scouting reports I don’t like— some say “questionable effort”— I really don’t like those types of comments.

thats why I liked Jawann Taylor better— although he hasn’t played LT— but some reports say he’s got the most ability— would have to start on the right.

theres a 2nd round OT that is a LT and I have to watch more videos, but all of his scouting reports sound good— might be a great play if we get the best DE first and a guys like that 2nd. Again I don’t know enough about him yet to say omg that’s the guy but I like what I saw so far.

Williams is the big question mark— whether he stays or goes— it will depend on what he wants I guess.

[hepcat]

If Ed Oliver falls out of the top 10, Marty needs to trade up and get him. He’s the next Aaron Donald 

[ncfan]

Only way id touch Burns is if we were moving to a 3-4.

Dude came to FSU as a 3-4 OLB.  Played OLB until this year under the new staff with the new system.

 

Haynes had the quickness and showed it in camp.  But was only active 1 game until our final 2 when we threw in the towel.  BECAUSE HE GOT PUSHED AROUND.  

So draft another guy thats the exact same soze as Haynes.  He11 no

 

 

Plus as far as Kiper.  He's supposed to be retired by now

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/4/19/17226834/mel-kiper-jimmy-clausen-nfl-draft-bet

[trueblade]

It's a terrible first round overall from a Panthers perspective. The top 5 EDGE gone (Bosa, Allen, Gary, Ferrel, Polite). Two DTs gone (Q. Williams, Oliver), 3 OTs (J. Williams, Ford, Taylor) 2 CBs (G. Williams, Baker). The only picks that aren't at a position of huge need were 2 QBs (Haskins, Murry) and a LB (White). Not a single WR, RB, or TE - areas of least need - even if Son of Olsen retires, Thomas showed well.

Edit: Actually no safeties taken yet. You could the top Safety if you wanted, but that's never been a big priority for this team under the current leadership.

[Black&BlueBubba]

1 hour ago, JARROD said:

I don’t know anything about the pick,.. I’m ok with an OLB to replace TD if they were another TD.

but with Greg Little still on the board going 2 picks later,.. and stating that he may be the only true Left Tackle in the draft...

i would have to say that we would take the left tackle.

My issue or concern with Little is his motor.  There is talk that he is one of those guys that could shut it down after he gets his big first contract.  I am tired of players like this.  

We payed KK and haven’t seen him since. 

I was watching the NE game the other day when I was impressed by their DE Flowers.  When I went to go read his draft profile there it was.  He is a high motor guy that never quits.  We neeed more of those players.  

Not saying that Little won’t work out.  I just want high quality guys so we are not in this Khalil situation again. 

Love the motor of a second round guy Chase Winovich from Michigan 

[JARROD]

1 minute ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

My issue or concern with Little is his motor.  There is talk that he is one of those guys that could shut it down after he gets his big first contract.  I am tired of players like this.  

We payed KK and haven’t seen him since. 

I was watching the NE game the other day when I was impressed by their DE Flowers.  When I went to go read his draft profile there it was.  He is a high motor guy that never quits.  We neeed more of those players.  

Not saying that Little won’t work out.  I just want high quality guys so we are not in this Khalil situation again. 

Love the motor of a second round guy Chase Winovich from Michigan 

Yeh I’ve read that about Greg— that’s a big flag—

Flowers is a BB guy— the problem there is would Ron be smart enough to duplicate the results,... Bill moves him around, knows how to get the best from him.

i like him otherwise.

i haven’t researched Chase— I’ll look him up since you mentioned him.

[Shocker]

8 minutes ago, trueblade said:

It's a terrible first round overall from a Panthers perspective. The top 5 EDGE gone (Bosa, Allen, Gary, Ferrel, Polite). Two DTs gone (Q. Williams, Oliver), 3 OTs (J. Williams, Ford, Taylor) 2 CBs (G. Williams, Baker). The only picks that aren't at a position of huge need were 2 QBs (Haskins, Murry) and a LB (White). Not a single WR, RB, or TE - areas of least need - even if Son of Olsen retires, Thomas showed well.

Agreed,  not liking how that fell.  I’d move down if possible if this happened.  If all else fails just build the OL and upgrade the defense in FA.

Too many holes to fill so let’s get that offensive loaded up and try to win some games that way.

[JARROD]

8 minutes ago, trueblade said:

It's a terrible first round overall from a Panthers perspective. The top 5 EDGE gone (Bosa, Allen, Gary, Ferrel, Polite). Two DTs gone (Q. Williams, Oliver), 3 OTs (J. Williams, Ford, Taylor) 2 CBs (G. Williams, Baker). The only picks that aren't at a position of huge need were 2 QBs (Haskins, Murry) and a LB (White). Not a single WR, RB, or TE - areas of least need - even if Son of Olsen retires, Thomas showed well.

Edit: Actually no safeties taken yet. You could the top Safety if you wanted, but that's never been a big priority for this team under the current leadership.

Actually it seems like safeties in general are getting poo on these days.

im not sure why.

[JARROD]

12 minutes ago, hepcat said:

If Ed Oliver falls out of the top 10, Marty needs to trade up and get him. He’s the next Aaron Donald 

If that’s true I’d be down—