Rams never won with this referee, NFL back to cheating

[Mother Grabber]

On 1/18/2019 at 12:29 AM, CocoLoco said:

Lmao. Destroys the comp% record, has the highest passer rating in the league. Amazing efficiency. 

 

But it’s fixed and he doesn’t deserve to be in the conversation. LMAOOOOOK

Dude, everyone knows the only reason Breesus went to the Taints was because he didn't want to get rid of his old Purdue gear.  Get over yourself and stop validating yourself through other people's achievements.

[Sgt Schultz]

This claim is an example of why reducing things to numbers is dangerous.  Being bored, I decided to spend a few minutes with Pro Football Reference.  Vinovich was a referee up until the end of the 2006 season and was then out for five seasons for a medical issue.  The Rams were 2-2 with him on the field in the three years he was a referee before the hiatus.  Their overall record in those three seasons was 22-26, so 2-2 is unremarkable.

He came back in 2012 and has worked eight Rams games in which they are winless.  Here's the problem: the Rams had losing records every year prior to 2017.  In a couple of years they were gawd awful.  In that period, he did six Rams games.  They went 0-6, but their opponents in those games were the 2012 Packers (11-5), 2013 Panthers (12-4) and 49ers (12-4), 2014 Eagles (10-6), 2015 Cardinals (13-3), and 2016 49ers (2-12).  That equals an opponent's record of 60-36, while the Rams record in the same stretch was 31-48-1.  In fact, if you take out the last game, the only one that on paper the Rams had a chance to win (it was the opening week, and the Rams finished 4-12 that year themselves), their opponents' record is 58-22.  Exactly how many of those five games would anyone expect them to win?  The fact that they finished 0-6 during that time with him as a referee is not very compelling, unless the conspiracy we are trying to prove is that the NFL tortured Vinovich with mismatches involving the Rams.

As for the penalty differential, all of those Rams teams were coached by Jeff Fisher.  Search "Jeff Fisher penalties" and you will find all you need.  Fisher not only does not care about his teams taking penalties (although he complains about it later), he sees them as a badge of courage for aggressive play.

Vinovich did no Rams games in 2017, the first year with McVay at the helm and the first year since 2003 the Rams were good.  In 2018, he did their games against the Saints, who whether we like it or not have been the best team in the NFC, and Eagles when the Eagles backs were against the wall and had to win out....which they did.  I saw the Eagles game.  The Rams were outscored 27-6 in the middle two quarters, and that is indicative of how badly they were outplayed. 

Maybe before we trash the integrity of a game official we should did a little deeper than just the record of a team involved?  Through 2016, given those opponents, 3-3 would raise my eyebrows more than 0-6.  Truth is, out of this 0-8 string, maybe one could argue the expected results would be 2-6.  4-4 would be more out of the box than 0-8 in those games.

But let's not let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy witch hunt. 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

Brady vs Brees “The Dink N Dunk Bowl”

[Mother Grabber]

goodell saw this tread and...

[beastson]

51 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

goodell saw this tread and...

Rams made a whole petition to remove the ref

Good

[ZoneRead]

well, the smoke as cleared super bowl is set I'm not watching it.