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Panthers pounded Cam into the ground, CMC is next


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36 minutes ago, top dawg said:

For the record, If I were Norv, I absolutely would have incorporated Anderson into the game. Absolutely! But, where I may differ from some is that I absolutely don't think that using him more would have been the difference between us playing last night or last week. I also don't think that he would have signed another contract with us because I don't think that it's his dream to play second fiddle (realistic or not). I also don't believe that he would have had the same success behind our O-line as he did the Rams' last night. So I think the whole thing is being way overblown.

On an off note, but within the same vein, I suspect that if Cameron Artis-Payne could possibly yield similar results, given a similar situation (but that's mainly a guesstimation on my part). 

I also believe that at the end of the day, C-mac's usage will decrease, and that we will get soneone---even if we "luck' up upon someone---that will be more talented, productive and dynamic than either Anderson or Artis-Payne.

For sure we would not have made the playoffs either way. Cam was done— maybe if Kyle Allen had started after the 6-2 we would have played 8-8 or 9-7 and missed the playoffs.

if we had made it with Allen, the worst thing is seeing what he has at all, but also we would have been picking in the 20s. 

The Rams have a much better team overall and their coaching staff outshines outs by leaps and bounds for sure.

with the arrival of the KC defense, I’m not sold that anyone beats them yet. 

I just liked CJ, liked him with the Broncos— often wondered what him and Stewart would do paired. 

Norv wasted that opportunity to at least see what he was paired with CMac—

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Despite what we want to say, Cam did have an OL + weapons + OC for the first two seasons of his career, and the 15-1 season he had super solid OL play. Yea, it's unforgivable to put your franchise QB behind an OL for any period of time with Byron Bell and Nate Chandler at the bookends, or rely on Mike Remmers to protect him from Von Miller in the SB. No question on that, but the team has tried to march out offensive lines for Cam only to have the unit decimated by injuries and exposed for having a lack of depth. It's not like it was ignored though. The team whiffed on Amini Silatolu and Edmund Kugbila, but then got it right with Trai Turner and Andrew Norwell. Daryll Williams and Taylor Moton were also drafted. There's also the signing of Michael Oher to try and find life after Jordan Gross. Matt Kalil was a dumpster fire signing, but the team showed it was serious about investing in protecting their QB.

Weapons are interesting, but when we expand the scope to include context rather than just names and results we start to get a clearer picture: 

  • 2011: they marched Cam out there with Agent 89, LaFell, Olsen, Shockey, Deangelo, JStew, and David Gettis who had shown promise the season before but tore his ACL.
  • 2012: the team looks for the return of Gettis (who regresses and shows lasting impact from the injury, much like what would later happen to KB but without the mental health issues) while replacing Shockey with Toldozer. The God, Brenton Bersin, first appears on the team's practice squad.
  • 2013: they replace Gettis with Ted Ginn Jr, but they also replace Chud with Shula.
  • 2014: KB is drafted to replace Smitty (which as we see now didn't pan out, but it was looking good at first). Cotchery and Philly replace LaFell and Ginn (who chased money in ARI). Former 2nd rd pick Stephen Hill is also brought in. Brenton Bersin, the Chosen One, returns from exile in ARI.
  • 2015: Funchess and CAP are drafted, Ted Ginn is brought back. Damiere Byrd hits the practice squad.
  • 2016: Jack poo is signed. He does fuging nothing. This season we can point at and be like "YOU DIDN'T DO A fuging THING FOR YOUR MVP!?!?!"
  • 2017: CMC, Samuel, and Armah
  • 2018: DJ Moore, Ian Thomas, Jarius Moore, and Torrey Smith brought in

2011, 2017, and 2018 saw the most significant investments made into the offense. 2013 was living off of the success of the prior offenses and simply trying to maintain it much like the team did unsuccessfully in 2016. Instead, resources were invested in fixing the defense which had been the reason behind the team's record for Cam's first two seasons. The team was, however, able to successfully maintain the offense in 2012. 2014 we saw a reboot of the WR group, and then again in 2018.

Now did the coaching staff knowingly, willingly, and consistently put Cam in harm's way with their play calling, scheming, and stubbornness? Fuuuuuuuuuuuck yea those pieces of poo did. Ron Rivera's infatuation with Mike Shula is enough for me to not be sad when he is eventually terminated. Shula's willingness to run Cam into brick walls and unwillingness to adjust to not make Cam sit there until a defender got to hit him in the head... and god damn don't get me started on that poo. "I would have taken the shot." The lack of fire when Cam was getting drilled. Not calling the league out. That cowardice is unforgivable to me.

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