Anderson wasn't good enough for Carolina

[NJPanthers12]

13 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Wrong on all counts as usual. How many great left tackles are sitting around out of work after the season starts? Clark played very well considering he was on the couch the week before. Who was better at that point and available.

Moore was a great rookie who had right at 800 yards and averaged over 14 yards a reception. All for a guy who didn't get a ton of playing time. And Jackson will do well when we move him to the slot where he belongs 

Breeland screwed us because we signed him and he never said he was hurt until our doctors discovered it. Then we had to dump him and find someone else. Lots of wasted time we could have used to get someone else. And he wasn't good because he likely wasn't 100% given all the missed time. And Tepper didn't push anything. Hurney and Rivera decided they wanted Reid  and Tepper signed off. Tepper had little to do with the decision other than agreeing to it.

Tough to argue with someone who thinks Chris Clark played well this year. I meant it’s not even an argument, it’s fact.

[panthers55]

Just now, NJPanthers12 said:

Tough to argue with someone who thinks Chris Clark played well this year. I meant it’s not even an argument, it’s fact.

Doesn't stop you though does it ?

[MasterAwesome]

9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's actually such a simple question that even a person with limited intelligence can understand it, but apparently not you

But let's try again: If we have a losing season next year, will you blame the people in charge?

The fact that you're making excuses not to answer it tells me all I need to know.

FINALLY we agree on something...yes it is a very “simple” question as I have already stated. You ask quite a few of those, huh?

Since you’re such a simple man with the simple questions, let me give you a simple answer: yes...if we have a losing season next year, I will blame the people in charge.  I’d ask you what next year’s success has to do with cutting CJ Anderson this year, but I know you can’t answer that and will promptly proceed to prove me right. That’s the thing about simple people: they are quite predictable.

[Toomers]

9 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Like I said above with our roster churning like a turnstile each week it was hard to keep up. I had to go to a website listing our transactions in order to make sense of it. But you are right CJ was released and we brought in Cadet who was a roster filler and Barner for special teams. We could have kept CJ but why? He was averaging 6 touches a game and doing little. Again if he was so great why did no one sign him until Gurley got injured. You would think teams would have jumped in him if he were half as great as you and others made him out to be.

   You were searching for any random moves(a month apart) to justify any of this. Whatever it takes to take focus away from the issue. Just like posters have since it happened. 

  We were 6-3. I don’t care how much he was being used. But if CMC gets hurt, are we better with CJ, or the two RBs we picked up(and paid more money)?

  Why will nobody answer this simple question? 

[Mr. Scot]

8 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

FINALLY we agree on something...yes it is a very “simple” question as I have already stated. You ask quite a few of those, huh?

Since you’re such a simple man with the simple questions, let me give you a simple answer: yes...if we have a losing season next year, I will blame the people in charge.  I’d ask you what next year’s success has to do with cutting CJ Anderson this year, but I know you can’t answer that and will promptly proceed to prove me right. That’s the thing about simple people: they are quite predictable.

It doesn't. That's a connection you made in your head that doesn't exist in the question (even after I told you it was a simple one).

5 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 We were 6-3. I don’t care how much he was being used. But if CMC gets hurt, are we better with CJ, or the two RBs we picked up(and paid more money)?

  Why will nobody answer this simple question? 

Here's another simple question. And yes, it's being avoided because folks with an agenda know the answer screws their argument.

[panthers55]

14 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   You were searching for any random moves(a month apart) to justify any of this. Whatever it takes to take focus away from the issue. Just like posters have since it happened. 

  We were 6-3. I don’t care how much he was being used. But if CMC gets hurt, are we better with CJ, or the two RBs we picked up(and paid more money)?

  Why will nobody answer this simple question? 

You are asking the wrong folks why it happened the way it did. We can speculate however we want but obviously Norv had a rationale and reason for moving on. None of us know the answer and are either  trying to figure it out or blaming and criticizing the move. Unless CJ or Norv tell it, none of us will know the answer.

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

You are asking the wrong folks why it happened the way it did. We can speculate however we want but obviously Norv had a rationale and reason for moving on. None of us know the answer and are either  trying to figure it out or blaming and criticizing the move. Unless CJ or Norv tell it, none of us will know the answer.

The only answer is we got worse as a team and paid more money to do it. Why doesn’t matter. These are the facts. Not an emotional reaction to justify it. Poorly. 

  Just make up another scenario. Or whatever is next of the protocols to absolve anyone of accountability. 

[panthers55]

5 minutes ago, Toomers said:

The only answer is we got worse as a team and paid more money to do it. Why doesn’t matter. These are the facts. Not an emotional reaction to justify it. Poorly. 

  Just make up another scenario. Or whatever is next of the protocols to absolve anyone of accountability. 

We didn't get worse because he left. We got worse because teams knew that Newton couldn't throw the ball so defenses crowded the line which would have made CJ even less effective. Your version is not fact. CJ was only averaging 6 touches a game so we lost very little. Go ahead keep complaining about how big a difference it made and how stupid all the coaches are because that will surely change the past and make them accountable to you or whoever you think reads your posts.

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

We didn't get worse because he left. We got worse because teams knew that Newton couldn't throw the ball so defenses crowded the line which would have made CJ even less effective. Your version is not fact. CJ was only averaging 6 touches a game so we lost very little. Go ahead keep complaining about how big a difference it made and how stupid all the coaches are because that will surely change the past and make them accountable to you or whoever you think reads your posts.

Worse as in weaker. Unless you want to argue that CAP AND Barber/Cadet was an upgrade. We traded our only other capable 3-down back besides CMC. For the 10th time, I don’t care how much he played or what he’s done since. One simple question. Complete facts. But you can’t help yourself trying to steer the issue away from it. As always. 

[top dawg]

Those questions were answered aeons ago. But since you're so simpleminded, let's recap.

Hurney and Rivera ultimately must take responsibility for the failure of the team. That applied this past season, and it applies the coming season. But only a simplistic thinking person doesn't take reasons for success or failure into account. Tepper is not a simpleton. He obviously took everything into account, decided to exercise patience, and here we are (good or bad).

I fully expected for Rivera and Hurney to get the boot. They didn't, and I understand why (because I'm not thick headed)  so I'm not going to whine incessantly about it. 

As for Anderson, he wanted to go. We let him go. No big deal. If you want to say we were a worse team, then fine. If you want to act like there isn't precedent for cutting veteran players who are essentially doing nothing but warming the bench, great. Let's say we were a few yards worse per game. Whoopty fricken doo!  The fact is that Cameron Artis-Payne has a 4.2 ypc vs Anderson's 4.5, but Anderson has run behind decidedly better lines. Is it a stretch to think that Artis-Payne could have done just as well as Anderson in the event that C-Mac got injured? Maybe, but maybe not. But, he was (at CJ's release) and is C-mac's backup, not Barner or Cadet (who were obviously brought in for depth and return duty).

If the release of Anderson has nothing to do with next year's success, then that proves the whole point that this is just another useless bitch-and-moan-about-Hurney-and-Rivera thread.

[Sub Zero]

13 hours ago, top dawg said:

I have actually lowered myself down to your level. The difference is it's in response to your stupidity as opposed to gratuitous insults about people because they disagree with me. Emotional? Nah! Just serving up the truth as a longstanding, respected poster on this board.

Top don't dirty your hands.. In all of my different entities on here.. You've always been objective, open minded and respectful even when we've gone back in fourth...

No need in changing that for King Hypocrite the Great.. Let me take that light work.. I don't mind going low and taking ppl with me..lol

Dude know It's on sight with me and him...

[Sub Zero]

11 hours ago, NJPanthers12 said:

Lol in what works did Hurney do a good job? Did you watch this season or Just figured you’ll make stuff up to fit your narrative. Literally did nothing to improve the pass rush or offensive line. His biggest free agent was a bust in Poe. Cut the best move he made all offseason in Anderson. Marty Hurney isn’t a bad GM, he is one of the 5 worst GMs in the game. The fact that he did not receive one interview after he was fired tells you everything you need to know about him.

Let's see..

The draft may have lead you to atleast 3 starters maybe 4 down the road..

His Free agent signing were widely accepted during the offseason and they aren't anchored with big contracts.. Jarius wright is a keeper, Hopefully Reid is as well..

Had massive injuries happen in TC and still was able to fill a competent Oline and Secondary..

Let go a few long time fan favorites (Stew, and TD) both with no controversy and handle with dignity and grace...

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

Built roster that had one of the most epic collapses in league history...

Fixed.

[Sub Zero]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Fixed.

Like Superbowl 15-1 team to 6-10 out of the playoffs??