Anderson wasn't good enough for Carolina

[Toomers]

8 minutes ago, Car123 said:

His motive is very obvious.  

  From a poster that ONLY posts to praise Hurney and bash Gettleman with 99.9% of his posts....lol. Sure. Someone else has a motive? HAHA

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Mr. Scot’s logic:

A) Steve Smith gets cut...goes on to have a great season with a new team = great move

B) CJ Anderson gets cut...goes on to have a great season with a new team = terrible move warranting post after post complaining in this thread

Wonder what the difference was between the two...hmmm, could it be who our GM was at the time of each...?

I don't care that much about how they do with their new team. I care a lot about how our team does.

A year after Smith we were in the Super Bowl. If we're in the Super Bowl a year from now, you'll have an argument.

[top dawg]

Yep, maybe a Steve Smith away from winning it all. How ironic.

[Car123]

15 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Money, production and out of Smiths mouth a couple months ago..”They did the right thing. It needed to be Cams team”. But people don’t want to hear Smitty say that. 

 And how does that answer the question? Just deflect to something else, about a GM who is gone forever. Let’s worry about the one running the team into the ground. Again

It wasn't about money. His release gave us a 9 million dead cap hit. It wasn't about production. He was still producing; a year removed from a 1200 yard season and a good season in a very conservative Shula offense. Cam had his best, most efficient season at the time (2013). Cutting him made us worse.

You and many others used to say he was released due to his awful locker room presence and being jealous of Newton's success. You even tried to push the narrative that he and Cam had physical altercations and needed to be cut immediately to make Cam the leader.

Now you and a few others believe disgruntled players should never be cut if they are producing. I wonder why. 

[Car123]

8 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  From a poster that ONLY posts to praise Hurney and bash Gettleman with 99.9% of his posts....lol. Sure. Someone else has a motive? HAHA

This is not true.

[Mr. Scot]

17 minutes ago, top dawg said:

My goal with you is not to win an argument, it's to have interesting, if not sometimes fruitful, football discussion. Your littering of the board with the same old Hurney and Rivera potshots and using the same old tiresome, decidedly patronizing and negative attitude towards sound rationale, though you may disagree with it, is not conducive towards that goal. Your simplistic attitude pertaining to issues and your continued arguments like, he-cut-your-favorite-player-so-you-are-angry  is very telling in light of your refusal to acknowledge that not only do you not know the favorite player, nor the basis for the "anger."

It's also telling that you said that you thought that Rivera was a "good" coach (who you admittedly said you didn't believe could get us to a championship), and now you're emphasizing how "incompetent" he is and effectively dumping on everything small or large that he has ever done, positive or negative. It's just indicative of your feeding off the negativity and "egging on" the nonsensical when you pass yourself off as being a voice of reason.

As for my limited importance to you (which is the quite logical expectation) as it only encompasses the discussion confined to this board, it's not like you can't use the ignore button. I haven't because I (probably foolishly) hold out hope that you can actually be a nicer, more thoughtful forum member.

And yet you recently accused me of taking away everyone's optimism, as if everyone was happy and looking forward to the future before I talked to them.

(as if that actually mattered)

And again, I don't follow you around posting and every thread you do, but apparently you feel the need to follow me. Again, that shows which of us is "attached" and which of us isn't.

But hey, feel free to keep trying.

 

[musicman]

Wrong outlook. CJ was and is a great player. He's now playing behind a great O-line that not one player missed a game this season. CMC had a phenomenal season. He was the game plan, even if it was a distraction. When Cam's shoulder got worse CMC was needed even more. CJ would have been running into 8 man boxes. Wake up. There are so many factors that go into a game plan and what certain guys are used more then others. I'm happy for CJ now and yes, I wish we could have kept him by RR did the right thing and give him a chance to do a little more with his 1 year prove it deal. 

[Mr. Scot]

28 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   Were we a better team after releasing Anderson? Did we pay MORE money to actually get worse? 

  No matter what his production was here, or now,  CJ was our backup plan if CMC gets injured. Whether he was playing a lot or not. We were 6-3. But we cut our best option and spend money to do it. His production today is irrelevant. There was no logical reason to make a team worse and pay for it. 

See, this apparently doesn't matter to some.

Wonder why 

[Car123]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

See, this apparently doesn't matter to some.

Wonder why 

Were we a better team after releasing Smith?

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Car123 said:

Were we a better team after releasing Smith?

What was our record the following year?

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, Car123 said:

It wasn't about money. His release gave us a 9 million dead cap hit. It wasn't about production. He was still producing; a year removed from a 1200 yard season and a good season in a very conservative Shula offense. Cam had his best, most efficient season at the time (2013). Cutting him made us worse.

You and many others used to say he was released due to his awful locker room presence and being jealous of Newton's success. You even tried to push the narrative that he and Cam had physical altercations and needed to be cut immediately to make Cam the leader.

Now you and a few others believe disgruntled players should nevet be cut if they are producing. I wonder why. 

 And how much would it have cost to keep him? That was one issue. Especially 2015. A year Cam won MVP with Smith gone. And Smitty has said as much. He had to go. 

  But continue to avoid the question with deflection away from the real and current issue. If I say Jon Beason does that suddenly make signing Matt Kalil less ignorant? Nope? But that is how huddle “logic” is these days.

[Car123]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

What was our record the following year?

7-8-1 then 15-1

Ok lets wait a year before we start bashing the staff for releasing Anderson. His release may propel us into the Super Bowl.

[Car123]

2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 And how much would it have cost to keep him? That was one issue. Especially 2015. A year Cam won MVP with Smith gone. And Smitty has said as much. He had to go. 

  But continue to avoid the question with deflection away from the real and current issue. If I say Jon Beason does that suddenly make signing Matt Kalil less ignorant? Nope? But that is how huddle “logic” is these days.

See above post

[top dawg]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

And yet you recently accused me of taking away everyone's optimism, as if everyone was happy and looking forward to the future before I talked to them.

(as if that actually mattered)

And again, I don't follow you around posting and every thread you do, but apparently you feel the need to follow me. Again, that shows which of us is "attached" and which of us isn't.

But hey, feel free to keep trying.

 

I don't follow anyone in threads, you or otherwise. You can't but see Scot-hate-Hurney-Rivera posts in every thread, like those are productive posts. 

You ultimately can't squish anyone's optimism, however guarded, hopeful or even existential that it is, but you can be annoying as hell, and dishonest about being a voice of reason, simply patronizing, and simply almost mean-spirited in your responses to others' opinions.