Andrew Luck is better than Cam Newton

[TheRed]

4 minutes ago, MVPccaffrey said:

They are both closer in ability than supporters on both sides like to admit... though I have to admit that after this year i'd say Luck is the superior player, but not by that much.

You'll never see Luck celebrating a 1st down instead of rushing to the LOS to spike the ball and preserve a timeout, though...

[MVPccaffrey]

1 minute ago, bull123 said:

Von Miller would have destroyed luck just like he did Cam

I don't think Luck would have fumbled though.  But yes Luck would have been unable to get anything going with that performance from the line.

I do think we win the SB in 2013 with Luck under center, however.

[poorboysrev]

16 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I know at least one of the strip fumbles Miller had was from behind Cam and he just ran around Remmers. So Cam couldn’t see him and it was there in like 2 seconds... Not saying Cam played great, but not many QBs can with their offensive line playing that bad.

Exactly...Easy to tell who actually watched the game and who didn’t  ha

[poorboysrev]

1 minute ago, MVPccaffrey said:

I don't think Luck would have fumbled though.  But yes Luck would have been unable to get anything going with that performance from the line.

I do think we win the SB in 2013 with Luck under center, however.

Huh? How in the hell can you say luck wouldnt have fumbled when sacked? That’s just stupid and impossible to know... and the 2013 statement..get the hell outnof here Cam played great to get us there the refs killed us in that game and it was obvious

[MVPccaffrey]

1 minute ago, poorboysrev said:

Huh? How in the hell can you say luck wouldnt have fumbled when sacked? That’s just stupid and impossible to know... and the 2013 statement..get the hell outnof here Cam played great to get us there the refs killed us in that game and it was obvious

Cam hadn't come into MVP form them.  With Luck in 2013 we don't choke against the likes of Seattle and Buffalo and are the #1 seed instead of them, and it's our Defense crushing the Broncos in the SB

[TheRed]

Hilarious seeing this guy who joined the huddle in October of 2015 showing how little he actually knows of the team by spouting incorrect info about the 2013 Panthers.

Dude probably wasn't even a fan back then.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

22 minutes ago, MVPccaffrey said:

Cam hadn't come into MVP form them.  With Luck in 2013 we don't choke against the likes of Seattle and Buffalo and are the #1 seed instead of them, and it's our Defense crushing the Broncos in the SB

lol yeah when I think of those two losses in 2013 I think of Cam Newton and not Josh Norman freelancing on the literal last play of the game and DeAngelo fumbling on the go-ahead drive.  Cam didn't play great in either game but he had us in position to win at the end of both of them.

e:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LuckAn00/gamelog/2013/

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00/gamelog/2013/

Their passing stats over the first two games of that season are really similar so I'm not sure where you're getting this idea from.  The Colts played the Raiders and Dolphins whereas we played the eventual Super Bowl champions and Bills.

[MVPccaffrey]

2 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

lol yeah when I think of those two losses in 2013 I think of Cam Newton and not Josh Norman freelancing on the literal last play of the game and DeAngelo fumbling on the go-ahead drive.  Cam didn't play great in either game but he had us in position to win at the end of both of them.

Luck was much better than Cam in that 2013 year.  We're not even in a position to choke those games, like I said.  With the most legit defense under Rivera that team doesn't lose in the Divisional and it's our defense romping over the Broncos instead and hoisting up the Lombardi

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

1 minute ago, MVPccaffrey said:

Luck was much better than Cam in that 2013 year.  We're not even in a position to choke those games, like I said.  With the most legit defense under Rivera that team doesn't lose in the Divisional and it's our defense romping over the Broncos instead and hoisting up the Lombardi

Yeah not really

Cam threw four more interceptions but he was also sacked way more.  Their passer ratings, comp %, and TD passes were very similar.

[Lumps]

You guys are comparing hypotheticals that are meaningless.

I think we can all agree Cam and Luck have not been blessed with the best organizations (FOs) in football and that has contributed more than anything to them both not reaching or being used to their full potential.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

17 minutes ago, Lumps said:

You guys are comparing hypotheticals that are meaningless.

I think we can all agree Cam and Luck have not been blessed with the best organizations (FOs) in football and that has contributed more than anything to them both not reaching or being used to their full potential.

I mean that sounds fine to me.  To keep things straight though I'm not the one talking about imaginary Super Bowls that we would have totally won.

[Darvinsun]

17 hours ago, Red Dead Redemption said:

Nope. Luck wouldve threw ball out quicker

and threw an interception.

[Skack25]

Let's be for real.  If we had Luck and the Colts had Cam, Luck would have the jacked up shoulder and Cam would have a career year coming off getting the necessary treatment.  This org would have poo on Luck the way they have poo on Cam.

[tiger7_88]

19 hours ago, poorboysrev said:

Huh? How in the hell can you say luck wouldnt have fumbled when sacked? That’s just stupid and impossible to know... and the 2013 statement..get the hell outnof here Cam played great to get us there the refs killed us in that game and it was obvious

Especially considering the fact that Luck, against KC this weekend, got strip-sacked by a player who isn't near as good as Von Miller (i.e. Dee Ford).