Cam helping to pave the way for black mobile QBs

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, TheMaulClaw said:

Oh yeah absolutely.  Any GM that ties color with mental capability of being able to play QB or anything in life should be banned from the game and sent to an island.   My original comments was just more or less stating that there were other black qbs that came before him to help pave the way.  In other words Cam didn't start the fire...but he's just been a great citizen and ambassador.  

This may be my fault.  The way I interpreted the thread title was that Cam was the reason teams are more open to black mobile qbs, and I just don't think that's entirely true.  I mean he was drafted number one.  It's not like he was a late round pick that rose to stardom shedding misconceptions along the way.  Guy was picked number 1.

Sure he was picked number 1, but he has had to deal with the same issues as others before him, or he wouldn't have felt the need to comment on it, or work behind the scenes for a player like Jackson. He obviously feels there is still a need, and it has to be based upon his experience.

[TheRed]

Anyway. I like Lamar Jackson. Seems like he has a bright future. I hope he can tune out the nonsense like Newton has been able to through his career for the most part.

People are hesitant to discuss it, but in a league full of good ol' boy owners it's much easier to be the humble nonthreatening Magnum PI Hawaiian shirt wearing Russell Wilson quarterback than the unapologetically black quarterback like Cam Newton who gets absolutely skewered on a regular basis with soccer mom's sending in angry letters for celebrating too emphatically.

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

You could also draw Fran Tarkenton in if you want to go back to the prototypical mobile QB. He gave opposing teams fits with wild scrambles and QB keepers. He did say of his running abilities, though, that he was purely running for his life most of the time. Steve Young's mobility was also a huge part of his game, at least early on. Those guys and Randall Cunningham really set the mould for what was to come.

Fran Tarkenton didn't have to deal with any negative stereotypes. He wasn't immediately categorized and put into a box. Come on, now. He was my first favorite "favorite QB" based upon his play making ability. He could air the ball out with the best of them---better than most of them.

[TheMaulClaw]

16 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Sure he was picked number 1, but he has had to deal with the same issues as others before him, or he wouldn't have felt the need to comment on it, or work behind the scenes for a player like Jackson. He obviously feels there is still a need, and it has to be based upon his experience.

As he should.  Almost anyone who shares empathy with what's someone is going through is more likely to help.  You're not going to get an argument from me on whether Cam is a good principled human being.  Cam is one of my favorite players of all time. Whenever I've criticized Cam is all been about on the field stuff.  Never about how he's represent himself and the city....never.

I love Luke Kuechly, but I also mentioned on here that I thought he's been pretty awful this year outside of the last two or three games.  

I think competition and criticism is good for Cam. I think that's how we draw out his maximum potential.  

 

[Lumps]

I mean Winston Mahomes Wilson are more than adequate passers...

i think cam is unique and paving a way for qbs in general...

but I guess we can slap race and limitations on it

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, Lumps said:

I mean Winston Mahomes Wilson are more than adequate passers...

i think cam is unique and paving a way for qbs in general...

but I guess we can slap race and limitations on it

Well, that's kind of the point. You seem to be sarcastically referencing slapping "race and limitations on it," but that's obviously still happening, or Cam---with his rare firsthand knowledge---wouldn't feel the need to address the perception about the "African-American quarterback in (the NFL)."

[TheRed]

8 minutes ago, Lumps said:

I mean Winston Mahomes Wilson are more than adequate passers...

i think cam is unique and paving a way for qbs in general...

but I guess we can slap race and limitations on it

You're the guy that randomly speculates on the sexuality of men you've never met in casual conversations about sports.

You can fug right off with trying to talk down to someone else for discussing race.

[mc52beast]

Running qb’s are great, but as we are seeing with Cam they can’t run forever, eventually you have to throw from the pocket.

[Lumps]

2 hours ago, TheRed said:

You're the guy that randomly speculates on the sexuality of men you've never met in casual conversations about sports.

You can fug right off with trying to talk down to someone else for discussing race.

Casual conversation of sports: entertainment would include such topics. 

You talk down to and randomly label people on this forum racists all the time without actually meeting them. Except sexuality is a topic and racism is a strong negative personal attack on someone. I wouldn’t expect you to recognize the difference.

youve become a joke on this forum that no one takes seriously. Get over it already.

[WarPanthers89]

Good for cam. 

[The Huddler]

lets not act like Cam isnt hated because of his dancing and misunderstood cockyness

 

 

lamar is quiet and humble

[KillerKat]

I'd like to say dual threat more than running QB. Running QBs dont have a chance in the NFL unless they have god like speed like Vick had. But he couldn't throw for poo. Can't think of anyone else who was/is a run only QB recently. But even then, McNabb  was a dual threat before Cam. Cam's not really paving the way, more so than just continuing the path that was already set before him.

[Cookie Lyon]

3 hours ago, TheRed said:

Very admirable. Proud of Cam.

It's revealing when you see dudes like MaulClaw jump in here ready to take even something like this away from Newton for no reason at all. Just instinct on his part. People still can't handle how wrong they were regarding Newton's character predraft.

This

[top dawg]

17 hours ago, The Huddler said:

lets not act like Cam isnt hated because of his dancing and misunderstood cockyness

 

 

lamar is quiet and humble

The post isn't about the humbleness of Jackson or cockiness of Cam, it's about Cam acknowledging that as a black QB in the NFL who can run, regardless of your disposition, that you still face negative perceptions as it pertains to your ability to be proficient at the position.