We are finishing last next year.

[Sub Zero]

40 minutes ago, beastson said:

Wasn't you talking this poo last year and how did this year turn out?

Injuries happened.. Especially to your starting QB.. No one truly plans for that..

[Lumps]

15 hours ago, Seltzer said:

Another embarrassing thread...

I sincerely hope some of you are not this defeatist in your personal lives...

Just a ridiculous thing to post at this point. We are months away from free agency and the draft where we have 4 picks in the first 3 rounds of what is projected to be one of the best drafts for defensive lineman in some time which happens to be our biggest need. On top of that, this team just had one of the best drafts in franchise history. Samuel and Moton showed elite potential in their 2nd years. CMC showed he could be arguably the best combo rushing/receiving back in the league...

If you are truly that pessimistic, you really should sit a season out or pick another team. Do yourselves and everyone else a favor...

What about qb?

[rhyslloyd]

It's an odd year.  Rivera will somehow win 9 or 10 games to save his job then follow it up with another 6 or 7 win campaign in which he scapegoats anyone but himself.  Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Carl Spackler]

8 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

That subzero quip was classic vaudeville level comedy.. You should quit the whole football forum thing and go on the rode with that level of whit..

Another satisfied customer

[Lumps]

If Cam isn’t going to do anything different to correct his shoulder like surgery or get second opinions, sit some time out...whatever, I’d rather tank for a QB draft pick in 2020 than see Ron scramble with a back up QB, FA game manager or god forbid send a hurt/tired cam out again to scramble to 8-8,9-7 to save his ass and have absolutely no hope for the future of the qb position.

[pantherclaw]

59 minutes ago, beastson said:

Wasn't you talking this poo last year and how did this year turn out 

Ahh, that's relevant. Lol

[mc52beast]

15 hours ago, Seoul_Panther said:

  I hear you. It’s hard to read through doom and gloom posts. But in a way I have to agree with OP. On a day when the Bucs grabbed a successful head coach, and rumors that Todd bowles a very good DC (not HC), will join him. Atlanta picked up Koetter from TB as their new OC. Again good OC terrible HC. NO obviously doing ok there. Meanwhile crickets in Carolina after an abysmal 7 game slide. I look at our team and we haven’t got any exceptional younger talent. I hope for the best but the Panthers need some good news to pick them up. Coaching, draft, FA, trade. Something. 

No younger talent?

Pretty good RB

Pretty good TE

Pretty good CB

two decent WR’s 

[RumHam]

16 minutes ago, rhyslloyd said:

It's an odd year.  Rivera will somehow win 9 or 10 games to save his job then follow it up with another 6 or 7 win campaign in which he scapegoats anyone but himself.  Rinse, wash, repeat.

our schedule indicates this will happen. When we play the AFC North and West, we suck. When we play the East, which is full of Jobber teams and the South, which ironically has improved, but we fair well b/c most of those franchises are in futility.

[RumHam]

BTW, each year we went to the Super Bowl, we played either the AFC East or AFC South.

[RumHam]

16 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

No younger talent?

Pretty good RB

Pretty good TE

Pretty good CB

two decent WR’s 

How many did players did we draft in the last 3 drafts? And you list 5 player with only one being a proven guy.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

35 minutes ago, Lumps said:

If Cam isn’t going to do anything different to correct his shoulder like surgery or get second opinions, sit some time out...whatever, I’d rather tank for a QB draft pick in 2020 than see Ron scramble with a back up QB, FA game manager or god forbid send a hurt/tired cam out again to scramble to 8-8,9-7 to save his ass and have absolutely no hope for the future of the qb position.

If Cam plays with an arm that hasn't properly healed or if some obscure backup plays in his place, chances are the results will be about the same, Panthers post another losing season in 2019.

Ron didn't roll over for a meaningless game in NO, so there is no reason to believe he's going to tank an entire season. 

If anything, Ron is preparing to give his best performance as the Panthers Head Coach in 2019.

Rivera always seems to coach his best when he's on the hot seat.  

[DonTeel]

Looking at the playoff teams,  talent in the trenches is an obvious common similarity for most of them.  Cam would have got his ass mauled if we made it in.  So we have plenty of good young skill position  talent.  I say go balls deep in on D AND O line.  What's more valuable than studs linemen on rookie contracts(outside of QB).  Take that norwell pick  (3rd round)and pick a starter alone either side of the line.  

[Lumps]

2 hours ago, Hammerin'Cam1 said:

lol QB ?

Cam isn't hurt, the team lost 5 games on our loss streak that had nothing to do with Cam's shoulder, nimrod

Cam isn’t hurt? Your trolling job lately is pathetic.

[Toolbox]

Way too early for this prediction... still need to see who we get in the FA/draft first.