Difference an oline makes it to a season Colts

[Kevin Greene]

2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Go back and tell me who they should have drafted at their spot in the draft.  Sometimes an OT is available sometimes not.

Vernon Butler, Shaq Thompson, Kelvin Benjamin, Star Lotu, it would be oh so easy.

[Moo Daeng]

Improved line and new staff and Luck back

[CPF4LIFE]

I agree,  im all for dedicating this draft completely to o line and d line it doesnt matter which one is first pick. 

[Toomers]

16 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

 

Two different situations.  He is saying there are several tackles that are top 15 talents.  Not that they are getting drafted top 15 because they are the best LTs in a weak class.

Do you think there are 16 prospects with higher grades than Jonah Williams?  I could actually see an O-lineman being decent value at where we are picking.  Williams, Ford, Little, and Taylor are all guys that could easily be in the top 20 depending on how all star games and combine go.

  I know what he’s saying. And fully realize this is based on nothing more than my opinion.  

 

       But the only one of that group I would use a first on is Ford. And not around 16. I could easily name 50 better prospects than Williams. You really want to jump on that Bama OL train? How many times has that worked out?  

[Toomers]

14 minutes ago, Kevin Greene said:

Vernon Butler, Shaq Thompson, Kelvin Benjamin, Star Lotu, it would be oh so easy.

  Then have at it. If it’s sooooo easy? Let’s see if you can get the easy one. 

[Shocker]

16 minutes ago, Kevin Greene said:

Vernon Butler, Shaq Thompson, Kelvin Benjamin, Star Lotu, it would be oh so easy.

Which OTs?

[PantherPhann89]

I agree that we need to go o-line heavy and by o-line heavy, I mean studs. I'd also like to upgrade our o-line coach. Our o-line is not good at run blocking and i believe thats scheme and players, so let's fix both now...

[tiger7_88]

15 minutes ago, Kevin Greene said:

Vernon Butler, Shaq Thompson, Kelvin Benjamin, Star Lotu, it would be oh so easy.

Kyle Long and Travis Frederick were there when we picked Star.

No real value on the OL below KB in 2014 outside of Trai Turner, so that year would have needed a trade-up.

Donovan Smith ain’t great, but he would have been a better pick than Shaq IMO.

Jason Spriggs would have been a MUCH better pick than Butler. 

[raleigh-panther]

55 minutes ago, Toomers said:

And which one of those guys is worth our 1st pick? Don’t just post random lists. Have an idea of what/who you’re even discussing. 

   You know the #1 guy on that list isn’t a LT. 

Are you trying to be a self righteous pompous ass over this?

ill be an ass back and ask you are you a NFL scout?

 If so, which team  do you work for as a scout?

If you aren’t a pro scout, guess what, your opinion is no better than mine 

You made a statement and I answered it with options. It was a short list to aid discussion as not everyone knows who the collegiate tackles are.  

If you don’t like the options pass it by vs making personal attacks 

This board used to be discussion, now it’s ‘nah nah nah, my answer is better, smarter than yours ‘

sick of this poo 

 

 

[Kevin Greene]

11 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Which OTs?

There's Free Agency, trades, move on draft day, not to mention Guards and Centers. I can't imagine you think the Panthers have prioritized Oline at any time since Cam's time.

[Kevin Greene]

14 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Which OTs?

And don't mention Matt Kalil to me.

 

[Krovvy]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/nfl-draft-2019-offensive-tackle-class-headlined-by-jonah-williams-looks-like-best-in-a-decade/

[Toomers]

7 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Kyle Long and Travis Frederick were there when we picked Star.

No real value on the OL below KB in 2014 outside of Trai Turner, so that year would have needed a trade-up.

Donovan Smith ain’t great, but he would have been a better pick than Shaq IMO.

Jason Spriggs would have been a MUCH better pick than Butler. 

  And we still had Jordan Gross and didn’t have an NFL caliber DT on the team. If you want a miss that year, it was missing out on Terron Armstead because we traded the pick for Joe Adams. And that year had the true “miss”. 

  Donovan Smith? At least Shaq is above average at his position. And everyone is better than Butler. And the best you got is Jason Spriggx. Not seeing a bunch of names that would have had the impact that 3 All-Pros already did. 

[AU-panther]

26 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  I know what he’s saying. And fully realize this is based on nothing more than my opinion.  

 

       But the only one of that group I would use a first on is Ford. And not around 16. I could easily name 50 better prospects than Williams. You really want to jump on that Bama OL train? How many times has that worked out?  

Any player, regardless of grade or where they are drafted can be a bust, but do you really think there are will be 50 players with higher grades on team's boards than Williams?