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Center.......what would you do?


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This is my biggest concern for the offseason.

I cannot cite the source currently, but years back I remember hearing a stat that losing the starting center is more impactful to a team's playoff chances than losing the starting QB.

I was extremely high on James Daniels and Billy Price as second round targets last season (and Frank Ragnow, though I figured he might go in the 3rd rather than the 1st), which is why I'm looking at Michael Deiter as a 2nd round target for the Panthers along with Dalton Risner. Both have experience all over the OL and can plug n' play at LG or C.

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14 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

This is a very good draft at C--however, rookie centers are fairly rare.  Personally, I think we need a smart, agile center.  I like Burkett from Stanford later in the draft. from 2016--

 

If we get a 3rd round compensation pick which we might not due to other signings, I would gladly spend it on Burkett. Otherwise, if we have just the one 3rd round pick I'm hoping for Jaquan Johnson out of Miami to help fill out the safety position (and generate some turnovers!).

I haven't gotten to watch him and have heard some negatives regarding his strength. Do you have any thoughts (if you've seen him play ofc)?

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4 minutes ago, Icege said:

I was extremely high on James Daniels

Me too, I had hoped we'd get him but there were several oline that were taken before we picked iirc. 

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2 minutes ago, Cdw said:

Me too, I had hoped we'd get him but there were several oline that were taken before we picked iirc. 

Yea, he went early in the 2nd round and my heart broke.

But then we selected Donte and he showed that he was the answer opposite of Bradberry, so ayyyyy!!

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5 minutes ago, Icege said:

Yea, he went early in the 2nd round and my heart broke.

But then we selected Donte and he showed that he was the answer opposite of Bradberry, so ayyyyy!!

Yep, I was dissapointed when he went but have no complaints with ending up with Jackson for sure.

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18 minutes ago, Icege said:

This is my biggest concern for the offseason.

 

I was extremely high on James Daniels and Billy Price as second round targets last season (and Frank Ragnow, though I figured he might go in the 3rd rather than the 1st), which is why I'm looking at Michael Deiter as a 2nd round target for the Panthers along with Dalton Risner. Both have experience all over the OL and can plug n' play at LG or C.

James Daniels is at OG as Cody Whitehair is one of the better Centers in the game, and was drafted at the end of the 2nd.  Actually right around where the value of pick were we to package both 3rds.  

Elfien- who was ahead of Price at Ohio State. was drafted in the 3rd ti the Vikings 

Ragnow- is at OG, as the OC who beat him out for that is a former 3rd rounder 

 

 

Give me

3rd: OG

3rd comp: Center 

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2 minutes ago, Lemory said:

Garrett Bradbury would be our best option 

I think so too. I think Larsen will be the stopgap and we'll look to drsft a developmental center in the mid-rounds. Bradbury might end up being the best center out of this draft class IMO, but I don't think he's physically ready to play as a rookie. He needs a year of living in an NFL weight room.

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46 minutes ago, ncfan said:

James Daniels is at OG as Cody Whitehair is one of the better Centers in the game, and was drafted at the end of the 2nd.  Actually right around where the value of pick were we to package both 3rds.  

Elfien- who was ahead of Price at Ohio State. was drafted in the 3rd ti the Vikings 

Ragnow- is at OG, as the OC who beat him out for that is a former 3rd rounder 

 

 

Give me

3rd: OG

3rd comp: Center 

Daniels went #39, but I hear what you're saying. Burkett is slated to be available in the 3rd, but I think that Risner and Deiter's versatility will cause them to go earlier.

If that 3rd rd comp is there tho, gimme dat.

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24 minutes ago, Icege said:

Daniels went #39, but I hear what you're saying. Burkett is slated to be available in the 3rd, but I think that Risner and Deiter's versatility will cause them to go earlier.

If that 3rd rd comp is there tho, gimme dat.

Daniels did go there

but Whitehair who is their Center, one of the top ones in the league thus keeping Daniels at OG instead of Center.  Whitehair was drafted at #56

 

 

Oh, and Ryan Kalil went #59

 

Ideally id like Michael Deiter And Elgton Jenkins in the 3rd

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1 hour ago, Icege said:

This is my biggest concern for the offseason.

I cannot cite the source currently, but years back I remember hearing a stat that losing the starting center is more impactful to a team's playoff chances than losing the starting QB.

I was extremely high on James Daniels and Billy Price as second round targets last season (and Frank Ragnow, though I figured he might go in the 3rd rather than the 1st), which is why I'm looking at Michael Deiter as a 2nd round target for the Panthers along with Dalton Risner. Both have experience all over the OL and can plug n' play at LG or C.

So Kalil pretty much doesn’t play at all last season due to a “neck injury” - we make the playoffs.

Kalil starts every game this season - no playoffs.

 

seems legit

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