What have Rivera and Hurney been up to?

[panthers55]

Most of the Hurney complaints being repeatedly adnauseum have largely been about what happened in the past. Tepper has none of that baggage. His experience with Hurney was the 2018 draft and free agency. Which by most accounts went pretty well. So he is not going to be anywhere close to as negative as long time Hurney critics who live in the past. He isn't stupid or timid just reflecting his experience of Hurney which has been good enough to keep him around.

[GeorgeHanson]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This isn't the stock market.

Stock markets don't have 16 game seasons, playoffs and championships.

You win and lose on an annual basis in this game. Playing to win in five years is a pretty stupid approach.

What defines winning in the stock market, in your opinion?  Logical time frame? 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, GeorgeHanson said:

What defines winning in the stock market, in your opinion?  Logical time frame? 

Perhaps you should ask a retired college coach.

[GeorgeHanson]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Perhaps you should ask a retired college coach.

Anyone you recommend?

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, GeorgeHanson said:

Anyone you recommend?

We had a guy who claimed to be one that used to post here, but he was a fraud. Wasn't especially bright either, and he whined because he wanted more people to pay attention to him.

Kinda pathetic, honestly.

[GeorgeHanson]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We had a guy who claimed to be one that used to post here, but he was a fraud. Wasn't especially bright either, and he whined because he wanted more people to pay attention to him.

Kinda pathetic, honestly.

So he's your suggestion for consulting on the stock market?  Consulting on consulting is your forte, right?

[Cdw]

33 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Most of the Hurney complaints being repeatedly adnauseum have largely been about what happened in the past. Tepper has none of that baggage. His experience with Hurney was the 2018 draft and free agency. Which by most accounts went pretty well. So he is not going to be anywhere close to as negative as long time Hurney critics who live in the past. He isn't stupid or timid just reflecting his experience of Hurney which has been good enough to keep him around.

Teppers experience with Hurney is that the 2018 draft went pretty well, FA I would say is debatable, and that ultimately he put together a 7-9 losing team - albeit, there were tons of injuries - a reaccuring excuse for him. 

As one of the people complaining ad nauseum I'll ask - why should we not be critical and skeptical of him.  Why should we give him a pass?  A good draft, questionable FA and a 7-9 record?  Is that his redemption?  And why should we trust Tepper if his wisdom is to ignore over a decade of past performance in favor of juding solely based on 2018s good draft, questionable FA and dissapointing 7-9 record?

[panthers55]

8 minutes ago, Cdw said:

Teppers experience with Hurney is that the 2018 draft went pretty well, FA I would say is debatable, and that ultimately he put together a 7-9 losing team - albeit, there were tons of injuries - a reaccuring excuse for him. 

As one of the people complaining ad nauseum I'll ask - why should we not be critical and skeptical of him.  Why should we give him a pass?  A good draft, questionable FA and a 7-9 record?  Is that his redemption?  And why should we trust Tepper if his wisdom is to ignore over a decade of past performance in favor of juding solely based on 2018s good draft, questionable FA and dissapointing 7-9 record?

When are injuries excuses and when are they unfortunate circumstances that derail your plans. That 7-9 season was a 6-2 season before Cam gets hurt and suddenly we go 1-7 the rest of the way. How many teams except the Eagles can consistently win with a backup or hobbled quarterback. In some ways we would have been better off if Cam broke something and sat. He would have sat out sooner got whatever treatment he needed much earlier and we might have won a few of those games. Tepper sees a good plan derailed by injuries. Most everyone agrees. Critics like you see the past and our inconsistencies where Tepper's fortune has been made by going against the trends and history and looking ahead to the future and guessing correctly about where it is headed and how to.position himself to take advantage of it. That is why you should trust him. He is a visionary and he is apparently very good at it 

[Cdw]

4 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

When are injuries excuses and when are they unfortunate circumstances that derail your plans. That 7-9 season was a 6-2 season before Cam gets hurt and suddenly we go 1-7 the rest of the way. How many teams except the Eagles can consistently win with a backup or hobbled quarterback. In some ways we would have been better off if Cam broke something and sat. He would have sat out sooner got whatever treatment he needed much earlier and we might have won a few of those games. Tepper sees a good plan derailed by injuries. Most everyone agrees. Critics like you see the past and our inconsistencies where Tepper's fortune has been made by going against the trends and history and looking ahead to the future and guessing correctly about where it is headed and how to.position himself to take advantage of it. That is why you should trust him. He is a visionary and he is apparently very good at it 

Tepper sees a good plan derailed by injuries, fair enough.  I saw a team sqeak by to 6-2 with obvious changes needing to take place.  After 6-2 I saw a team that could have won games if someone had the fortitude to sit an injured QB, to change the defensive playcalling.  A team that probably would have made the playoffs inspite of the injuries, considering the state of the NFC.  So I guess Im blaming Rivera, but hell at some point before it was pointless maybe management should have stepped in and forced his hand.

But in the end it is what it is.  I'm still skeptical, but, I hope youre right in that Tepper's plan will work out and that Hurney will be fine, because that would mean Panther wins, and Panther wins make me smile.

[GeorgeHanson]

14 minutes ago, Cdw said:

Tepper sees a good plan derailed by injuries, fair enough.  I saw a team sqeak by to 6-2 with obvious changes needing to take place.  After 6-2 I saw a team that could have won games if someone had the fortitude to sit an injured QB, to change the defensive playcalling.  A team that probably would have made the playoffs inspite of the injuries, considering the state of the NFC.  So I guess Im blaming Rivera, but hell at some point before it was pointless maybe management should have stepped in and forced his hand.

But in the end it is what it is.  I'm still skeptical, but, I hope youre right in that Tepper's plan will work out and that Hurney will be fine, because that would mean Panther wins, and Panther wins make me smile.

Tepper has a 26.2 mile plan....we are not yet at mile-marker 1.

Your patience will be well rewarded.

[Cdw]

7 minutes ago, GeorgeHanson said:

Tepper has a 26.2 mile plan....we are not yet at mile-marker 1.

Your patience will be well rewarded.

My patience has been worn thin by 12 years of Hurney and 8 of Rivera.  I'm not completely sour on Tepper though, but if I have to run a 26.2 mile marathon to see the fruits of his plan...... well, Im just to fat and tired and fear I wouldnt make it

[GeorgeHanson]

6 minutes ago, Cdw said:

My patience has been worn thin by 12 years of Hurney and 8 of Rivera.  I'm not completely sour on Tepper though, but if I have to run a 26.2 mile marathon to see the fruits of his plan...... well, Im just to fat and tired and fear I wouldnt make it

Too funny!  Good post!!

If you can just make it to mile-marker 4, rather than warm water or Gatorade, those drink cups they are handing out will have cold/sweet nectar of the gods from fine local brewpubs like Legion & Noda & Resident & Sugar Creek, etc....at that point you can kick back and enjoy the procession!

Patience!

[raz]

good brew pubs in charlotte.  bwahahahahahahahahahaha

seriously, what do old donut head's balls taste like.  seems like you think they're krispy kreme donuts.   being a professional gambler, which is what he is, does in no way translate to football.  maybe he'll do a good job, maybe he won't.  right now he's not doing a good job.     try and spin it any way you want.  he's sucking it up right now. coulda had any gm candidate he wanted this year.  no competition.  can afford anyone he wants.   we got nothing.  now you two can go back to earning your .25 a post for pretending you know anything about hedge fund managers.

[Jangler]

13 hours ago, The Lobo said:

What do you think they talked about? I just picture them looking at memes all day. 

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