What have Rivera and Hurney been up to?

[thefuzz]

4 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

First of all everyone here is assuming that the GM does everything and doesn't have staff in place. What you all think the GM of a team doesn't get input from his coaches and scouting staff who all have a say in the big board. Coaches have no impact on which free agents are brought in and signed.... you figure this happens in a vacuum and no factors are brought into play... 

 

come on now, let's be realistic. Butker was never going to get the job over Gano with Rivera here. Even if Gettleman was still the GM that poo wouldn't have happened. Star was offered a contract by the Panthers, he got more from the Panthers previous gm in waiting up in Buffalo. 

 

Additionally the Star contract is 33m over 3 years and if cut after year 3 still has 5m dead cap attached to it. Poe contract is basically 2 years 18m dollars with 3m dead. You know since most of the money was in 2018 season with a little in 2019. 

Fill you in on another secret...it's why Rivera hasn't been successful with Hurney at the helm.

He needs a GM that tells him to F off, we drafted a kicker to take over for Gano because with Cam on his 2nd contract, and KK and Trai getting paid we have to look for savings. 

[thefuzz]

Just now, Car123 said:

What about if we weren't paying Matt Kalil or Munnerlyn?

Sure, even better.  Didn't want either of them here in the first place.

 

[Car123]

1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

Sure, even better.  Didn't want either of them here in the first place.

 

You're not completely delusional as some of your huddle friends. A little respect gained.

[top dawg]

24 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Did you look at his contract in BUF?  Or just spout that off?

Yeah, and...You're presupposing a lot. Star wanted out of here and he got out of here, and he'll likely be in Buffalo for the better part of the next decade (unless he sucks).

[Cdw]

29 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

If I'm the guy who previously saddled us with a starting duo of Sione Fua and Terrell McClain, I'd probably at least consider it.

Oh man, why remind us of that illustrious duo, some things are better left forgotten

[thefuzz]

4 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Yeah, and...You're presupposing a lot. Star wanted out of here and he got out of here, and he'll likely be in Buffalo for the better part of the next decade (unless he sucks).

I'm not advocating for Star.  Another poster brought up the fact that the pass rush was bad before Hurney took over, when in fact we had the 2nd and 3rd most sacks in the NFL in 16 and 17.  He pointed to Star leaving as to why the pass rush is bad, and I pointed out that we could have kept him over Poe with just the flick of a wand.  Namely not taking on Torreys overpaid ass, not signing Poe, and not wasting money and games on Gano.

All I was saying is that we could have afforded him, but we (stupid GM) chose to go in different directions.

I would have preferred to keep Norwell instead, but that's neither here nor there.

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, Cdw said:

Oh man, why remind us of that illustrious duo, some things are better left forgotten

It's okay, though. He also signed Dontari...damn

[Car123]

The reason our sack number was so high in 2017 was because we blitz a lot. A change in philosophy will help our pass rush. I want to see what Poe and company can do with a better coordinator.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Car123 said:

I want to see what Poe and company can do with a better coordinator.

You mean like we saw in the last few games of this season?

[Car123]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

You mean like we saw in the last few games of this season?

Our defense did improve.

But i mean after a full offseason/training camp.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Car123 said:

Our defense did improve.

But i mean after a full offseason/training camp.

Yeah. We looked reeeeaal solid against the Falcons.

[Car123]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah. We looked reeeeaal solid against the Falcons.

The defense gave up in the second half after our offense kept trying to hand the game over to Atlanta. Adams' blunder didn't help. The defense was decent in the first half, but overall it was a bad game.

We did look better when Rivera took over the playcalling. The mnf game reminded me of 2015.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, Car123 said:

The defense gave up in the second half after our offense kept trying to hand the game over to Atlanta. Adams' blunder didn't help. The defense was decent in the first half, but overall it was a bad game.

We did look better when Rivera took over the playcalling. The mnf game reminded me of 2015.

They gave up 14 points in the 3rd quarter.  You know, that quarter that comes after you get to rest and make halftime adjustments.

Fading in the second half is a staple of a Rivera coached team regardless of who the DC is.

[Car123]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

They gave up 14 points in the 3rd quarter.  You know, that quarter that comes after you get to rest and make halftime adjustments.

Fading in the second half is a staple of a Rivera coached team regardless of who the DC is.

Did the defense improve after Rivera took over?