Panthers salary cap

[Lasus83.]

30 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

The Matt Kalil info is incorrect.

Kalil’s cap hit for 2019 is $12.15M with a dead cap of $14.7M.

A post June 1st cut takes that $14.7M and divides it up over the next two seasons.

His adjusted 2019 cap hit would now be $4.9M instead of the original $12.15M, a savings of $7.25M (cap space that can only be used for draft pricks and in season signings).

His adjusted 2020 cap hit would be $9.8M, the same number it would be if he was released outright in 2020.

Matt Kalil is essentially eating up $7M that could be used on draft picks and in season signings this year. Additionally, with the 2020 post June 1st cap number being the same $9.8M as the 2020 dead cap number, the same $6.1M is saved.

Is Matt Kalil worth $7.25? That’s the question to ask and the easy answer is no.

peace out Kalil.

[TheSpecialJuan]

3 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Why the heck would they make Captain a post June 1st cut, that’s a waste of money.

Just cut him outright and save the money with the intent to address the nickel position in free agency or the draft.

agreed, Captain is not a very good player anymore. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 hour ago, Sasquatch said:

The cap hit to release M. Kalil is 2.5 million more than keeping him. Even Post June 1 costs a quarter million more. Poe would save about 2.6 million, so we would break even by cutting both but need to sign replacements with no cap gain.

Matt Kalil will be released 100%

[Shocker]

1 hour ago, pantherj said:

Yeah Jackson would be perfect to replace Captain. Then draft another CB with more height.

Yep, the force is strong with this one

[TheSpecialJuan]

What Happens If The Panthers Decide To Move On From Matt Kalil

https://theriotreport.com/matt-kalil-panthers-cap-hit-release/

[panthers55]

42 minutes ago, Toomers said:

And that whole post is why we are where we are. Paying for past production. Because of what he means to the franchise. Not on expectations of future performance. I can see why you defend Hurney. You share the same mindset. 

  Even when healthy, Greg has been a “threat” to retire at any time. Why you would hand him guaranteed money instead of just yearly deals is amateurish. 

And now we are going to overpay for him whether he plays or not. 

Paying for past production is appropriate if he is continuing to produce. Every contract is predicated on what you have done up to now and what you are expected to do in the future. For example is Olsen worth 7 million this year? Hard to say right now. Until he is healed and has a reasonable chance for a complete recovery I would be concerned. Given Thomas's production I might be tempted to move on from Olsen if he wasn't 100% and motivated for 2019. But his contract at the time was predicated on the premise he would return to form in 2018  So it wasn't a bad contract by any means but needs to be evaluated based on current circumstances which have changed since last off-season.  Guranteed money in the signing bonus can be recooped by a team if a players retires prematurely through arbitration called the Barry Sanders rule. Plus any guaranteed money  not yet paid when he retires is not owed if the player chooses to retire as he just voided the remainder of his contract. So the retirement issue isn't the huge concern you make it out to be.

[PantherNation123]

4 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

I still think the best thing Carolina could do with Munnerlyn is move him back to safety to replace the aging Adams. Captain is a willing and aggressive tackler and could work much better in open space and assisting in coverage rather than taking on slot receivers (and we don't see many dedicated slot receivers anymore, but we do see WR1s lining up in the slot creating terrible mismatches with Munnerlyn).

God this would be terrible.  Munnerlyn hasn't belonged on the field the last two seasons, even at safety.  Yes, Adams was garbage, but Munnerlyn would've been worse.  Just gotta cut ties with the bum... he's cost us enough games already

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Toomers said:

Seriously? And you accuse me of memory loss? And why doesn’t that apply to DG? Ever. That’s my issue. It’s either both or neither. Can’t have it both ways. 

What are you referring to specifically?

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Toomers said:

  Does this also mean JR signed Matt Kalil? I get confused on JRs involvement and the convenience it comes with. 

  

  

What is that off the wall comment referring to?

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Paying for past production is appropriate if he is continuing to produce. Every contract is predicated on what you have done up to now and what you are expected to do in the future. For example is Olsen worth 7 million this year? Hard to say right now. Until he is healed and has a reasonable chance for a complete recovery I would be concerned. Given Thomas's production I might be tempted to move on from Olsen if he wasn't 100% and motivated for 2019. But his contract at the time was predicated on the premise he would return to form in 2018  So it wasn't a bad contract by any means but needs to be evaluated based on current circumstances which have changed since last off-season.  Guranteed money in the signing bonus can be recooped by a team if a players retires prematurely through arbitration called the Barry Sanders rule. Plus any guaranteed money  not yet paid when he retires is not owed if the player chooses to retire as he just voided the remainder of his contract. So the retirement issue isn't the huge concern you make it out to be.

 So you acted believe that Greg is going to hand money back to the team? He already has the money. You’re not getting it back. This isn’t the same as Sanders. Get with me when we get that money back and some cap relief for his dead money. Until then, he can do anything and keep everything. 

  He had just went through missing most of the previous season and was looking at his broadcast career for years. But hey, give him guaranteed money. You can spin this any way you want. It was foolish and now it’s a waste of money one way or the other.

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

What are you referring to specifically?

  For the 3rd time, why is it JR is responsible for only Hurney mistakes? Why is any Poor DG decisions not blamed on JR? Is it just one way? Why aren’t both responsible for their own actions? That’s my whole point. JR is convenient when defending Hurney. And only Hurney. Awful convenient. Isn’t it?

[Black&BlueBubba]

5 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Also lol at restructuring KK’s contract, just what that lazy bum needs, more guaranteed money up front and a bigger cap hit in the future.

Agreed.  Every time I see his salary it makes me laugh the he wanted to be put in the same discussion of Fletcher Cox. What a joke.  

[panthers55]

51 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 So you acted believe that Greg is going to hand money back to the team? He already has the money. You’re not getting it back. This isn’t the same as Sanders. Get with me when we get that money back and some cap relief for his dead money. Until then, he can do anything and keep everything. 

  He had just went through missing most of the previous season and was looking at his broadcast career for years. But hey, give him guaranteed money. You can spin this any way you want. It was foolish and now it’s a waste of money one way or the other.

It isn't up to him it is up to an arbitrator if we decided to recoup it. It is in the new CBA. And again the guranteed money at this point is less than 6 million so not the huge deal you make it reaching for something to criticize Hurney about. There is still some low hanging fruit but Olaen's contract isn't a big part of it. 

 

[panthers55]

56 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  For the 3rd time, why is it JR is responsible for only Hurney mistakes? Why is any Poor DG decisions not blamed on JR? Is it just one way? Why aren’t both responsible for their own actions? That’s my whole point. JR is convenient when defending Hurney. And only Hurney. Awful convenient. Isn’t it?

That has to be one of the stupidest posts of the day. That is hardly a point. Richardson was clearly at fault in 2010. Doesn't mean Hurney was blameless simply that when your owner tells you to sign someone it limits your options including the ability to walk away. Did he do anything like that to Gettleman. Hell I thought Gettleman refusing to do what Richardson wanted got him fired. Hard to see how you can morph that into saying Gettleman was stuck doing Richardson's bidding against his will. Seems Gettleman  did what he wanted regardless of what others wanted