Moton LT of 2019? Not so fast...

[MillionDollarCam]

If it’s really that big of deal let him play all the snaps of every preseason game next year at LT... people will argue about anything I swear...

[MHS831]

3 minutes ago, ncfan said:

So youd rather draft a project guy who gets beat by college edge rushers instead of sliding the guy back over who the staff likes and has proven he can handle it vs good teams and top players in the league.  Holy poo

So you plan for a guy to be your LT but don't play him there in a meaningless game, the last game before the draft? 

I was throwing possible scenarios against the wall for discussion, until a few  asshats thought they would attack.  I was speculating what it might mean--not telling you what has to be done.  I lack your infinite wisdom in that area--but I can interpret a post.

 

[WarPanthers89]

I get it that people want Moton as left  tackle and next year he absolutely should be with Williams on the right,  but it really didn’t make a difference yesterday if we switched  Moton to right tackle. People act like it’s madden, other teams can simply line the best DE on the right and have the same result. 

[ncfan]

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

So you plan for a guy to be your LT but don't play him there in a meaningless game, the last game before the draft? 

I was throwing possible scenarios against the wall for discussion, until a few  asshats thought they would attack.  I was speculating what it might mean--not telling you what has to be done.  I lack your infinite wisdom in that area--but I can interpret a post.

 

Yes evaluation 

Clark CANT play RT but can play LT

We have no Depth

Limited QBs

And want to keep the best OT on the field.

You slide Moton here fkr this game, you get a Massive upgrade at LT but but have no RT

 

Just dont get how some of you cant wrap your head around this.

If we had someone who is remotely capable of playing RT we couldve slid him over.  About the only dam option was Kalil.  And would you want to put him there when your done to warmup CMC as backup QB.

 

There is no QB evaluation if there is no RT.  We just tried to patch the OL up to make it theough the game.  

 

 

 

[MHS831]

1 minute ago, stbugs said:

How was Dallas’ DL depleted? I checked snap counts and Lawrence, Crawford, Collins, Gregory, Charlton, Woods, Armstrong and Ross all played. Basically, there entire set of starters and backups in 2018 all played week 1. If you are going to spout out stuff that isn’t true and state myths like he’s a better guard as if they are facts, then you might as well just stop. We’ve never seen him ever play guard but he’s a better NFL guard when he’s been ranked a top OL at tackle? C’mon man.

Also, maybe they wanted to evaluate Allen since he looked good last week in that one drive? I don’t think moving OL spots around is a smart decision for one game. First, you can get a QB killed and second he’s been playing RT for 14 straight games. It’s not a good evaluation to give him little to no prep at LT. That’s what the offseason is for once you know what other tackles we have. Why is that so hard to understand?

Randy Gregory.  Even though you missed the point of the thread (To speculate about the reasons your LT of the future was not playing LT)  and decided to take off on a tangent, do you think you have seen enough (preseason and 1 regular season game) to know that Moton is the answer at LT?   And if you do, why the hell was he not there all season.  LTs are not there in free agency--RTs are.   No NFL coach has a LT on the roster and plays Newhouse and Clark at LT----That is stupid.

[klumme]

Kalil will be our LT and Silatulu will be starting at LG. That is Rivera football.

 

If not for injuries. Moton would not have played at all this year.

[LinvilleGorge]

18 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

Yes it is. 

We'll see. I hope you're right. I think we might still be waiting on the first logical non-injury forced lineup change during Rivera's tenure.

[MHS831]

Just now, ncfan said:

Yes evaluation 

Clark CANT play RT but can play LT

We have no Depth

Limited QBs

And want to keep the best OT on the field.

You slide Moton here fkr this game, you get a Massive upgrade at LT but but have no RT

 

Just dont get how some of you cant wrap your head around this.

If we had someone who is remotely capable of playing RT we couldve slid him over.  About the only dam option was Kalil.  And would you want to put him there when your done to warmuo CMC as backup QB.

 

Jeezus

 

Dear Jeezus,

Your points MIGHT be valid if the roster  was not fluid.  You can find RTs in free agency--nobody forced you to play Newhouse and Clark.  If you have a LT, Mr. Jeezus,, you play the LT at LT.   PERIOD.

If you refuse to do so, it makes me wonder if they have a reason--I  should have asked the football messiah, however.

At no time in the history of the NFL is it smart to keep a LT on the right side so you can stuff street free agents at LEFT TACKLE.

Ask Kyle Allen how that worked out. 

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, stbugs said:

See my post above. This game wasn’t about Moton. Based on what I’ve seen this year, I’m comfortable starting him at LT if we resign Williams who is absolutely strictly a RT (he was terrible when tried in the left). I also don’t get screwing around an OL for one game when you are trying to evaluate a backup QB and get your young guys good reps. Just because you think it would have been smart doesn’t mean it makes sense. Is it really a good evaluation for next year when he’s have the whole offseason at LT if we resign Williams or what if we draft a LT and don’t resign Williams. We’ve seen Moton at both tackles. We haven’t seen Allen at all and with Cam’s shoulder, evaluating Allen was far more important.

Also, stop mentioning guard. It’s silly. Sure, let’s move a top 25 OL, top 10 tackle to guard so we have two new tackles next year. SMH.

The mentioning of Guard was speculating what RR would do if we sign Williams and he still goes with Kalil--that would explain moving Moton to G---you want your best OL on the fiield.  I have said that 3 times now.  And he was better there in college than T.  Not debatable.

YES OR NO:  We were smart to play our inexperienced and unproven LT of the future at RT in a meaningless game?   Hell, we were stupid to play him--if he did so well during preseason and Dallas, at RT at all with Clark at LT---why would you do this.

That is the point--answer the question.

[RoaringRiot]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We'll see. I hope you're right. I think we might still be waiting on the first logical non-injury forced lineup change during Rivera's tenure.

I really don't think so. They know what they need to do there and from all accounts it's what they are going to do. They're not going to be resting this offseason like there is no urgency to make the right moves. 

Note: I don't mean "urgency" like Hurney is going to panic and speed all the monies. I know some of you will read it that way. 

[MHS831]

5 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Gregory played 1/4 of the game week 1. He played 40% all year including get 69% this week (his most all year since it didn’t matter). Lawrence and Crawford are better and the starters.

We've given you all the reasons it didn’t make sense to shuffle the OL for one game. 

I see your point--except that your reasons  are not logical.   First, Moton should have been at LT ALL season instead of Clark, but this game--a meaningless Game to evaluate talent--do you want to evaluate your LT of the future OR worry about chemistry for a meaningless game?   Why is this hard? 

Bottom line--if you have a LT on the roster, you do not play him at RT while Clark plays LT.  Period.  End of story--your reasons are not logical at all.  "We did not want to mess up the OL chemistry so we sucked this year and had our LT playing RT--How many QBs did we lose this year?

[heel31ok]

16 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I get it that people want Moton as left  tackle and next year he absolutely should be with Williams on the right,  but it really didn’t make a difference yesterday if we switched  Moton to right tackle. People act like it’s madden, other teams can simply line the best DE on the right and have the same result. 

And 3 qb injuries later...

[Shocker]

IMO...If Cam is healthy LT, Edge, S are definitely at the top of the offseason shopping list.  If Cam isn’t healthy QB is number 1

Would also like a larger CB moving DJackson to slot.  Oh and a center and maybe another DE.  Oh, and OLB.  

[MillionDollarCam]

It’s not just Moton...

I can’t beleive that Rivera didn’t play Cam so that he could get more reps with D.J. against an NFL secondary, be damned if Cam is hurt or not, he’s missing out on valuable snaps for next year.