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Official Panthers at Saints Gameday thread...


Jeremy Igo

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In this thread we will see:

- people calling for Kyle Allen to be the backup 

- people demanding we go QB in the first round

- people mad at the OL for holding penalties on 4 of our 5 biggest gains on offense

- Sanjay saying something stupid

- lots of hate on Rivera and Hurney

- discourse following a 31-10 loss that was not that close 

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Hoping to see positive signs from the young defensive guys today.  We need to see what guys like Gaulden have, if a guy like Corn is worth keeping, and if any of the young DEs can flash more than the other. Also interested to see the LBs...might go a ways in deciding whether or not we need to draft a guy.

Oh...but also need Teddy B. to put a few points on the board and for us to lose. 

Fun Fun Fact - Funch is a healthy scratch today....welp, I'd say the message has been pretty clear to him the last month or so, and that's GTFO. 

 

 

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