How did Ron fool people?

[Harbingers]

Ron didn’t fool you, you are fooling yourself.

[mc52beast]

18 minutes ago, Toolbox said:

I swear if tepper gives ron another year tepper will lose any goodwill he has had.. he will just be another JR 2.0 to most of us.

Better brace yourself, a lot of people think he’s safe

[Fox007]

Just now, beastson said:

I had an argument with a Redskins fan that he's a good HC, I'm going back and forth hard and just had to stop myself. I'm starting to see most people outside Carolina hates Cam, loves Ron. They think we need to change our QB and everything would be okay

Yup as my post below states....if you are familiar with proceedings outside this fanbase that's the narrative somehow. fugin media...they never let poo go nor do they admit when they are wrong and that's the big reason why it's that way.

13 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Also, narrative.

Since Cam came into the league they never changed their pre/post draft narrative on Cam no matter what. So it's easy for them to be like "oh Rivera is winning(or has to deal) with THAT QB". Whereas the fans of the team actually know wtf is going on.

 

[davos]

2 minutes ago, Cdw said:

Even in '15 Mr Defense Rivera's D was giving up big time leads and letting teams come back. 

THIS THIS THIS

The team bailed out terrible in-game decisions throughout that entire season.  Giants, Colts, Packers, Saints games all had some grade-A bullsh*t happening with Cam and Co bailing their asses out. 

The following season, Bucs(x2), Saints (x2), Chiefs, Raiders. 

Nope, if players don't execute their gameplan, it's all on the players.  Nothing ever falls on coaching.  Ever.  Did we mention he's a military kid??? Oh Rivera is so great!!

[beastson]

19 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Also, narrative.

Since Cam came into the league they never changed their pre/post draft narrative on Cam no matter what. So it's easy for them to be like "oh Rivera is winning(or has to deal) with THAT QB". Whereas the fans of the team actually know wtf is going on.

I didn't see this before my last post, but I'm starting to realize these fools think Cam is the problem. I'm still hearing how Cam has had a top defense, stats show Panthers only had a top 10 defense twice in 8 seasons. 2013 and 2015

They just dont do their homework

[Cdw]

2 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Better brace yourself, a lot of people think he’s safe

I keep telling myself that theres no way, but....

 

[Fox007]

4 minutes ago, beastson said:

I didn't see this before my last post, but I'm starting to realize these fools think Cam is the problem. I'm still hearing how Cam has had a top defense, stats show Panthers only had a top 10 defense twice in 8 seasons. 2013 and 2015

They just dont do their homework

Yea I saw what they were doing since day one....Dumbasses still listen to the media for some reason and allow themselves to be manipulated. Happens all over obviously not just sports....

 

[davos]

Also this BS about Cam not being able to execute 2 minute drills...I guess ppl completely forgot about 2015.  He got lost in the moment against the Saints but the guy leads game winning drives.  It's happened against Bama, Oregon, and since his rookie year in the NFL.  He's a jogger but collects the team together, announcers don't see him looking like Ike from South Park (aka Rivers) and say he's being lazy.  

We need insurance at QB but this coaching staff needed to be sent packing at 3-8-1.  

Oh and CJ Anderson has 120 rushing yards in the 3rd quarter right now.  They don't know how to use the talent they have and it's clear as day. 

[Saca312]

18 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

You mean the defense? For most of our sb run year the defense gave Cam excellent posistion every possession. How many sacks and turn overs did we have that year?

How many leads have we nearly blown. Our offense was at its peak with Cam and helped negate what could’ve been a ton of blown leads.

[philit99]

33 minutes ago, bobsfoodbasics said:

Most old people are incredibly naive. Have you seen how many old people get scammed by those fake IRS scams? 

Most of Ron's defenders are old naive people who are afraid of change. Ron has basically pulled a scam over the entire NFL over the past 8 seasons.

I think most of us “old naive people” prefer the demon we know versus the demon we don’t. Look at it this way if we keep Rivera next year we win! It’s an odd year! If you fire him we could go in the cellar for the next 5-10 years. Look at Tampa, how did all the head coach changes help them?

[Harbingers]

1 minute ago, Saca312 said:

How many leads have we nearly blown. Our offense was at its peak with Cam and helped negate what could’ve been a ton of blown leads.

You defy the magic. You used to be cool back then. Now your washing up for what you really are. I’m curious which TB alt is yours. 

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, davos said:

THIS THIS THIS

The team bailed out terrible in-game decisions throughout that entire season.  Giants, Colts, Packers, Saints games all had some grade-A bullsh*t happening with Cam and Co bailing their asses out. 

The following season, Bucs(x2), Saints (x2), Chiefs, Raiders. 

Nope, if players don't execute their gameplan, it's all on the players.  Nothing ever falls on coaching.  Ever.  Did we mention he's a military kid??? Oh Rivera is so great!!

It's as if Ron can't understand that no one has ever drawn up a play or game plan with the intention of failing. Everything works on the whiteboard when everything goes perfectly to plan but that other team consists of professional football players coached by professional football coaches too who are devising their own game plans and plays with *gasp* the intention of also being successful.

[beastson]

1 minute ago, philit99 said:

I think most of us “old naive people” prefer the demon we know versus the demon we don’t. Look at it this way if we keep Rivera next year we win! It’s an even year! If you fire him we could go in the cellar for the next 5-10 years. Look at Tampa, how did all the head coach changes help them?

They also didn't have a Cam or Luke. They're just now building up their roster, but they've been missing a quality quarterback for a long time. Doug Pederson won a SB in his 2nd year, see how I can easily flip stuff like that. Regardless, if you're not getting the job done you should be replaced.

[Fox007]

5 minutes ago, philit99 said:

I think most of us “old naive people” prefer the demon we know versus the demon we don’t. Look at it this way if we keep Rivera next year we win! It’s an odd year! If you fire him we could go in the cellar for the next 5-10 years. Look at Tampa, how did all the head coach changes help them?

It helped them as much as keeping Rivera has helped us.

Point is to win the big one chief and hell even Tampa won their SB appearance and we don't even have that to fall back on. You have no point at all.

poo Tampa with Cam and Luke probably do much better than we have actually.