Report: Rivera’s job in jeopardy

[MountaineerChemist10]

21 hours ago, FightingScot said:

We need a new starting QB

Only a rookie. 

[poorboysrev]

21 hours ago, parker said:

I think you start with a GM then evaluate the team from top down and come up with a combined vision.  Most of you guys want Tepper to be Jerry Jones.

This seems most logical to me. Whether he creates a VP of football operations position like John Elways in Denver(perhaps a Peyton Manning ha) or hire a GM at that point you have to let that person fairly evaluate Ron and whether or not they want to make a change. A forced pairing of a GM with a coach they did not hire or endorse leads to problems. We saw it with Gettleman and the Norman situation and such that he and Ron were not on the same page. Can’t have that kind of dysfunction at the top. Figuring out who gets to make that coaching decision should be priority number 1. 

Ps...I don’t even think hurneys done a bad job this go around and Rons time management and refusal to adapt until it’s too late drives me insane but I think first step’s first 

[CoastalCat]

This is so incredibly ridiculous to me. No Panthers coach has had a better record than RR, and everyone is on here talking about how happy they'll be when we hit the reset button. I just don't get it. You do realize that, when you flip a coin, it's just as likely to come up tails.

Here's where I'm coming from, for everyone that thinks I'm Ron's delusional cousin or something...

Along with the Panthers, I'm also a huge ECU Pirates fan. We had a similar situation 3 years ago where we had a pretty good coach that won most of the time (Ruffin McNeill). We never won a national championship, but won the conference a couple of times and were consistently bowling. In 2015, the QB got hurt late in camp and the coach turned in a 5-7 season. He was promptly fired, with the athletic director stating that "We want to compete for championships". Fast forward to today. The team just turned in its third 3-9 season in a row, the coach we brought in is gone along with the AD that hired him, and the program has wiped out about 15 years of progress. (PS: Ruffin McNeill is currently the interim defensive coordinator at Oklahoma. Him and his former ECU offensive coordinator and now sooners head coach, Lincoln Riley, are preparing to take on Alabama in the playoff).

I just want everyone to take a minute and think about the fact that roughly half of the teams in the NFL have a net losing record over a given period of time. Our current coach has a net winning record, and I think it's ridiculous to get rid of him until that changes, or at least until he misses the playoffs two years in a row.

Fair warning: If Ron is shown the door and we turn into the Buffalo Bills for the next 5 years, I'm going to get pretty obnoxious on here (yes, even more than usual).

[Chardee MacDennis]

I think this team is going to follow the Process, by trading away any player who earns more than they're worth in the open market, accumulating draft picks galore, replacing the GM and entire coaching staff down the the bones, and starting a rebuild around a young QB on a rookie contract AFTER drafting and signing enough OL help to be secure in protecting the new signal caller.

CMC, DJ, Ian and Curtis will lead the offense as weapons of the future. Another QB will be brought in who is accurate and can hit these quick guys on timing routes, and the offense will truly evolve to the new age NFL. There's no reason with the talent and speed of our 3 weapons we shouldn't be much better on offense. 

And defensively, I think nobody but Luke and Action Jackson are safe. 

Stockpile draft picks, make big bold moves for the betterment of the future of the franchise. And let some QB who is not a top tier draft pick or free agent come in and drive the Tank for a year or 2, then turn it around in one off-season with a Franchise QB draft and a big free agency splash.

[4Corners]

Lots of dumb, garbage takes in this thread. Good Lord. 

[nfour6pts]

I like RR but I’d bet Tepper has plans for his own “team” to come in. RR will prob get a job quickly and may even reunite with DC Wilks when he is let go by AZ. He can take Norv also.

[Wolfcop]

1 hour ago, CoastalCat said:

This is so incredibly ridiculous to me. No Panthers coach has had a better record than RR, and everyone is on here talking about how happy they'll be when we hit the reset button. I just don't get it. You do realize that, when you flip a coin, it's just as likely to come up tails.

Here's where I'm coming from, for everyone that thinks I'm Ron's delusional cousin or something...

Along with the Panthers, I'm also a huge ECU Pirates fan. We had a similar situation 3 years ago where we had a pretty good coach that won most of the time (Ruffin McNeill). We never won a national championship, but won the conference a couple of times and were consistently bowling. In 2015, the QB got hurt late in camp and the coach turned in a 5-7 season. He was promptly fired, with the athletic director stating that "We want to compete for championships". Fast forward to today. The team just turned in its third 3-9 season in a row, the coach we brought in is gone along with the AD that hired him, and the program has wiped out about 15 years of progress. (PS: Ruffin McNeill is currently the interim defensive coordinator at Oklahoma. Him and his former ECU offensive coordinator and now sooners head coach, Lincoln Riley, are preparing to take on Alabama in the playoff).

I just want everyone to take a minute and think about the fact that roughly half of the teams in the NFL have a net losing record over a given period of time. Our current coach has a net winning record, and I think it's ridiculous to get rid of him until that changes, or at least until he misses the playoffs two years in a row.

Fair warning: If Ron is shown the door and we turn into the Buffalo Bills for the next 5 years, I'm going to get pretty obnoxious on here (yes, even more than usual).

I agree wholeheartedly. The grass is not always greener. Even though we have never had back-to-back winning seasons, we also have not gone on an extended drought. There are many NFL franchises that would love to have our history. Ron is a good coach. Hard to win with an ineffective QB. 

[coralreefer_1]

17 hours ago, Wolfcop said:

I agree wholeheartedly. The grass is not always greener. Even though we have never had back-to-back winning seasons, we also have not gone on an extended drought. There are many NFL franchises that would love to have our history. Ron is a good coach. Hard to win with an ineffective QB. 

not everyone sir. Its just the emotions of the becky come out when we have to admit the season is over, and we didnt live up to al lthe poo-talk so many did about NO or ATL. I personally support Ron. People will poo on the most successful coach we have ever had, but at the same time defend the most successful QB we have ever had. It is almost as if logic has escaped people, and the race of said ppl are more important.  Stop being racist ppl!

[MVPccaffrey]

Ron isn't going anywhere.  He'd be sitting on 21+ wins in the last two seasons if his QB's shoulder hadn't turned into wetted tissue paper.

The odds of us finding a coach better than RR anytime soon are quite remote.  It's been damn near 20 years since we've had a coach as bad as the Koetter/Hue/Josephs/Bowles/Wilkes/McAdoos of the world, and the franchise should do all it can to avoid that type of scenario.

[Malt Liquor]

1 hour ago, nfour6pts said:

I like RR but I’d bet Tepper has plans for his own “team” to come in. RR will prob get a job quickly and may even reunite with DC Wilks when he is let go by AZ. He can take Norv also.

I don't know why people think RR will get a job quickly. The NFL has evolved and his coaching style will not win a championship.

[raz]

i see the rivera family has found this thread.   screw y'all.  he's never been very good.  he had cam.  without that he wouldn't have made it here 2 years. he's a crappy coach and he won't last any where he gets a hc gig, just like foxy didn't.   and he's stupid.

[emcannon]

11 minutes ago, Camvp said:

Ron isn't going anywhere.  He'd be sitting on 21+ wins in the last two seasons if his QB's shoulder hadn't turned into wetted tissue paper.

The odds of us finding a coach better than RR anytime soon are quite remote.  It's been damn near 20 years since we've had a coach as bad as the Koetter/Hue/Josephs/Bowles/Wilkes/McAdoos of the world, and the franchise should do all it can to avoid that type of scenario.

Nah, I'm not buying that. The odds of us finding a coach better than Ron are probably slightly better than 50-50. Throw in the fact we have an owner who has made a career out of making calculated risks, and I like our odds of finding a young, innovative mind to take over as HC next year.

Ron isn't really that great of a coach. Sucks at time management, old school mindset, gets out-coached regularly. The only reason he's stuck around is because Cam's won him a number of ballgames and his players like him. If I were a betting man, I think I'd bet the house on Tepper pulling the plug on the current regime after we lose at NO.

[raz]

he better.  i don't ever wanna see that pos on the side line again.  

[nfour6pts]

13 minutes ago, Malt Liquor said:

I don't know why people think RR will get a job quickly. The NFL has evolved and his coaching style will not win a championship.

He led a team to a SB which is more than a lot of coaches can say. If 7-8 jobs open up then I can see someone taking him.