Cam Newton wasted time signaling first down, talking to Saints before halftime

[Silent Majority]

12 hours ago, Still Brooklyn said:

Can you imagine if Rivera was black? I think it would cause the forum to divide by zero. "How dare you say anything about Cam ever, you racist! It's Rivera's faul ... uh ... I mean ... uhhhhh ... jadhgjkahdGJKAhdgkajHDGKJhdgjkhdgjahgagdkJDHGJAhg".

? Now we see what's behing the "if you criticize Cam, you're a racists crowd". It is in fact racial. Omg...the Black skin!!!!!

[Icege]

ITT I watch as people refuse to acknowledge that Cam did something knuckle-headed and instead scream "whatabout Ron's emails"

[TheRed]

17 minutes ago, Icege said:

ITT I watch as people refuse to acknowledge that Cam did something knuckle-headed and instead scream "whatabout Ron's emails"

Interesting that you overlook the tone of this thread which if we are being honest is not all that thinly veiled just to howl about whataboutism.

But keep telling yourself that you aren't in the same corner as these racists.

[JARROD]

We all waste time reading each other’s stupid turd posts too,..

whats the point here?

[thefuzz]

Closing out halves, and the two minute offense have been an issue since Ron and Cam got here.  Safe to say that Cam does struggle with game management, but that comes straight from Ron.

 

[PanthersBigD]

The majority of the posters bashing Cam in this thread have made it clear in other threads that they hold racist views. So while criticizing Cam is not racist in and of itself, it's easy to see who's making the comments and that they're probably coming from a place of racism. 

Cam fuged up. He should have/could have done a lot of things better Monday night, but do you know why guys like Tom Brady are so quick to call timeouts? Coaching. Tom Brady knows that Bill Belichick will be in his ass on the sideline if he's quicker calling the timeout than Tom is. He holds them all accountable, and he's on top of everything. Rivera is a great leader of men, but he's terrible at game management, and it's a trickle down problem. 

[TheRed]

Cam and the offense ultimately lost us the game. They couldn't get it done. This isn't a fact that can be disputed. Who has argued otherwise?

But why are people under the assumption that only the QB can call a timeout? We're nearly a decade into the Ron Rivera era. You're telling me that they don't practice scenarios like this? They haven't seen scenarios like this before? What is Ron doing? What is Norv doing? What is the assistant head coach doing? We have an entire coaching staff.

And here's the thing. This is the same offense, QB, and coaching staff that navigated a 17 point 4th quarter comeback earlier in the season. How do you go from that to this, and it be the fault of only one person? There's more going on than we know here. That much is for certain.

[RumHam]

15 hours ago, Ace_Aladdin said:

Cam needs to take responsibility for his mistakes but is he too big headed? 

 

 

it's amazing when your extreme homerism is proven wrong, you lose it like acealaddin 

[Skack25]

15 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, he should've called a timeout, but the sideline can also call a timeout. 

This is like bitching about dirty dishes left on the table in a house that's literally on fire and burning to the ground.

For a second, I thought I was an a hole for bitching at my wife about leaving dirty dishes everyone.  My house isn't on fire though, so I guess I'm in the clear! 

[RumHam]

13 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

The majority of the posters bashing Cam in this thread have made it clear in other threads that they hold racist views. So while criticizing Cam is not racist in and of itself, it's easy to see who's making the comments and that they're probably coming from a place of racism. 

Cam fuged up. He should have/could have done a lot of things better Monday night, but do you know why guys like Tom Brady are so quick to call timeouts? Coaching. Tom Brady knows that Bill Belichick will be in his ass on the sideline if he's quicker calling the timeout than Tom is. He holds them all accountable, and he's on top of everything. Rivera is a great leader of men, but he's terrible at game management, and it's a trickle down problem. 

Most are that case I agree, but the signs are there that he wants to hang it up. He either literally cant do it or just flat out doesn't want to do it.

[thefuzz]

3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Cam and the offense ultimately lost us the game. They couldn't get it done. This isn't a fact that can be disputed. Who has argued otherwise?

But why are people under the assumption that only the QB can call a timeout? We're nearly a decade into the Ron Rivera era. You're telling me that they don't practice scenarios like this? They haven't seen scenarios like this before? What is Ron doing? What is Norv doing? What is the assistant head coach doing? We have an entire coaching staff.

And here's the thing. This is the same offense, QB, and coaching staff that navigated a 17 point 4th quarter comeback earlier in the season. How do you go from that to this, and it be the fault of only one person? There's more going on than we know here. That much is for certain.

Not a single person that is worth replying to thinks that Ron can't call a TO.

[PanthersBigD]

3 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Most are that case I agree, but the signs are there that he wants to hang it up. He either literally cant do it or just flat out doesn't want to do it.

I don't think he wants to hang it up. I think he's an elite athlete, with an elite athlete's psyche. It would most likely be career suicide mentally for a starting QB to ask to be pulled from the game. I think he's frustrated, maybe a little depressed, because none of the therapies/remedies they've been trying are helping. The most obvious remedy is complete rest, like they did with Andrew Luck. I just don't know if Tepper has that kind of patience, or maybe knows something we don't. 

[Manther]

I went back and watched this.  He busted his ass fighting defenders from deep in the pocket all the way to the first down.  It was an incredible play...literally no one but him could have pulled that off.  He signaled  the first down for a moment and walked back and looked surprised no one had called time out.  Is he supposed to do everything?  Really?

[Icege]

3 hours ago, TheRed said:

Interesting that you overlook the tone of this thread which if we are being honest is not all that thinly veiled just to howl about whataboutism.

But keep telling yourself that you aren't in the same corner as these racists.

There are a good bit of posters in this thread that are dismissing Cam's failure entirely because of Rivera failing as well. These very same individuals that if we were to create a thread, right now, and rant about Rivera needing to have called the time out, would be absent entirely from mentioning that Cam should be blamed too. Mike Tomlin could be the coach and I'm comfortable with assuming the reaction towards him would be the same as what Rivera is currently receiving. I don't think that it is as much about racism as much as it is a zealous adoration of Cam where any fault of his needs to be immediately dismissed/trivialized (unless that is because if not then some racist in the Tinderbox wins, then ok maybe it is about racism but not for the reasons originally thought).

I have no idea what you're attempting to imply there at the end, but I'm open to understanding how thinking that Cam should have prioritized calling time out over posing puts me "in the same corner as these racists" if you're open to explaining.