Can this team actually compete in 2019?

[Jmac]

So you get maybe two or three starters out of any draft that aren't JAG's.....FA requires cap space to actually sign anyone besides JAG's...we are losing all the older guys and our own JAG's. Dline needs a complete rebuild and the Oline is a mess. The QB has a bum shoulder and dead arm before surgery.

Do they actually have a #1 WR? CMC is 90% of our offense and running game. Can they compete in 2019?

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, Jmac said:

So you get maybe two or three starters out of any draft that aren't JAG's.....FA requires cap space to actually sign anyone besides JAG's...we are losing all the older guys and our own JAG's. Dline needs a complete rebuild and the Oline is a mess. The QB has a bum shoulder and dead arm before surgery.

Do they actually have a #1 WR? CMC is 90% of our offense and running game. Can they compete in 2019?

Hell no. We have pieces, but we're going 4-12 if we hire a new coach and 2-14 if we don't.

[bobsfoodbasics]

A lot of the older bums will be retiring. That should free up some money. 

You have your tackles, a rb and young wrs. If cam is healthy, you're good at qb for a few more years.

The defense needs safeties and LB's. Definitely an edge rusher. 

Team could definitely be competitive next season with some good free agency pick ups and a decent draft.

[Seltzer]

Of course we can... we were 6-2 and have lost a bunch of close games... we would've won tonight if not for the redzone turnovers 

Some people just love to be dramatic and negative

We have issue with our pass rush for sure, we need another viable OT, and we need to let Cams shoulder heal...

But this is not a talentless team... some "fans" just revel in the misery

[bobsfoodbasics]

Just now, Seltzer said:

Of course we can... we were 6-2 and have lost a bunch of close games... we would've won tonight if not for the redzone turnovers 

Some people just love to be dramatic and negative

We have issue with our pass rush for sure, we need another viable OT, and we need to let Cams shoulder heal...

But this is not a talentless team... some "fans" just revel in the misery

If williams comes back healthy, you have two good OT's and MK as the highest paid backup OT in the league.

[Hoenheim]

You're looking way too far into the future.

There might be some huge changes to the roster and the staff this coming offseason with a new owner. Hard to say how that will impact next years team. 

It also depends on how Cam recovers from this shoulder injury. This would be the 2nd surgery on the same shoulder. Will his range of motion be affected forever? Is complete recovery even an option?

Lots of questions and possibilities.

[Bunskie]

I know the sky is falling for a lot of you guys - but honestly one good draft can turn a franchise around real quick. The draft we picked up KK + Star was one I can think of recently for us. We have a ton of talent on this team, just need better more consistent pressure on the D-line, maybe another o-lineman and we are back in the playoff hunt - as long as Cam's shoulder is back in form. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Lots of changes in store for the off season but this team has some talented young players and with the right leadership could be a threat next season. 

[Jmac]

6 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

Of course we can... we were 6-2 and have lost a bunch of close games... we would've won tonight if not for the redzone turnovers 

Some people just love to be dramatic and negative

We have issue with our pass rush for sure, we need another viable OT, and we need to let Cams shoulder heal...

But this is not a talentless team... some "fans" just revel in the misery

Yep that's me....the debacle and collapse I just witnessed was a total hallucination, It didn't happen. Old players, a beat up QB and other assorted major problems aren't actually there for everyone to see. After 20+ years of the same shat with a sprinkle of success here and there.....it gets very old. Hard to wave the pom pom's after this let down.

[Seltzer]

8 minutes ago, Jmac said:

Yep that's me....the debacle and collapse I just witnessed was a total hallucination, It didn't happen. Old players, a beat up QB and other assorted major problems aren't actually there for everyone to see.

6-2 to this is a debacle... this is a historic and disheartening collaspe... 

Cam Newton can be completely healthy by next year... of course his health is a concern, but he is examined more by a doctor in a week than most of us in a lifetime... if there was something truly structurally wrong with him he wouldn't be playing. He obviously is not 100 percent but he's not irrevocably broken either.

In terms of the "old players," there is no one retiring or thinking about retiring next year that is playing at such a high level that it will be devastating to the team, including Olsen.

TD is arguably playing the best among that group, and he wants to keep playing.

I'm ready to be done with both Kalils, and I say that as someone who respects Ryan Kalil completely.

I hope Peppers comes back as a 3rd/4th DE... he can still be effective but we need some every down players.

We need a good draft and FA like we had this past offseason, but this team is not light years away.

IMHO, this year's team was more talented than last years team everywhere but at DE... we just overachieved last year and underachieved this year 

Who knows what happens next year but we have 4 picks in the first three rounds... need to make it count

 

[Jangler]

this reminds me, I gotta but some sunglasses.