We've lost SEVEN games by a touchdown or less

[Carl Spackler]

Second most in franchise history, I believe, trailing only this season's spiritual equal, the 2001 Panthers. Our last five losses were by a combined 20 points.

[Seltzer]

6 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Second most in franchise history, I believe, trailing only this season's spiritual equal, the 2001 Panthers. Our last five losses were by a combined 20 points.

It is a crazy number... that's what makes me frustrated with some of the negative nancies...  I lived through 2001 and 2010... this is not it...

The pass rush needs upgrading, and Washington as DC was a bust 

Cams shoulder and lack of deep ball.

Those are the only things I worry about for next year.

The difference between 11-5 and 5-11 is not big in the NFL... 

Last year we overachieved... this year we underachieved.

Next year is next year... and as long as we get some pass rush and get Cam healthy we have a shot

[PhillyB]

that's how football was lost back in my day

7-10 losses

back when football was REAL

-ron rivera

[Navy_football]

Cam's arm is shot. The backup could have likely won this game. 

Rivera should be fired for allowing Cam to continue to stress an already fragile shoulder injury - on his friggin throwing arm!

[carpanfan96]

last year 7-1 in one score games. winning records with Rivera because of his coaching style and the NFL in general for most part is determined by the ability to close out close wins. Panthers seem to flip flop back and forth from above 500 to sub 500

[Montsta]

1 hour ago, PhillyB said:

that's how football was lost back in my day

7-10 losses

back when football was REAL

-ron rivera

It’s actually crazy when you think of how many seasons we’ve had where success or failure was determined by 7 points per game. 

[Proudiddy]

Thats what happens when you have a gutless, spineless, limp dick, braindead, stuck-in-the-80s coach...  your games are decided upon a razor's edge.  It's why his coaching is outdated...  a single score decides whether he is a good coach or a bad coach, and he can't win in consecutive seasons, so what does that tell you?  Are the wins the norm, or are the losses the aberration?  If almost all of your games are decided by a single score, and you're hovering around .500 for your career besides one season your team caught lightning in a bottle and played out of their minds, i'd say that's a good sign that you have very little influence over your team's outcomes...

Which means, you suck.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Thats what happens when you have a gutless, spineless, limp dick, braindead, stuck-in-the-80s coach...  your games are decided upon a razor's edge.  It's why his coaching is outdated...  a single score decides whether he is a good coach or a bad coach, and he can't win in consecutive seasons, so what does that tell you?  Are the wins the norm, or are the losses the aberration?  If almost all of your games are decided by a single score, and you're hovering around .500 for your career besides one season your team caught lightning in a bottle and played out of their minds, i'd say that's a good sign that you have very little influence over your team's outcomes...

Which means, you suck.

Pretty much. Ron's philosophy has a slim margin for error. We consistently try to do just enough to win. We'll take the foot off the gas when we're rolling and then ask the D to try to hang on. Then he blames player execution if it doesn't work out. 

[Mage]

Eh, I miss when the close losses actually used to hurt.  

I haven't emotionally cared about a loss since after the Lions game.  Everything since has been numbing.  Probably won't see another Panthers win until 2019... which is sad to think about.

[outlaw4]

So it's like the early Ron Rivera era all over again. If he does get fired, it would be a fitting bookend. 

[Jangler]

besides Cam's shoulder. something changed on the team, and there is clearly a power struggle going on.

[Carolina Cajun]

3 hours ago, Montsta said:

It’s actually crazy when you think of how many seasons we’ve had where success or failure was determined by 7 points per game. 

this is a direct result of the style of play Rivera plays though.  If you grind the playclock and limit total possessions, you're bound to have closer game games because each team has fewer possessions.  That IMO makes Rivera's inability to consistently pull out those victories even worse because he's the one setting that stage.

[Monty83]

The other issue with this is that you have a physically dominant QB who historically isn’t the most accurate, has the ability to take over a game other ways, but you’re forcing to be precise and have a small window for error. We continue to put Cam in situations where he has to save us, but not with his running. With his arm. Enter in the fact his arm is hurt, and the whole philosophy is asinine. Enter in the additional part where our HC is terrible at game/clock management and it’s one of the more ridiculous plans you can think of.

This is where the strategic part of being a coach isn’t there for Rivera. He is a ceteris paribus (“if all other things are the same”) coach, in a league where nothing stays the same. You have to recognize football is situational. 

There are only 3 certainties - death, taxes, and Luke Kuechly ballin the eff out IF you don’t give him a crappy DC.... which Ron did too.

 

[juliosantos]

great team but bad qb play and bad coaching