Will the NFL give a super bowl to an aging Cam Newton?

[Manther]

SB rings aren't given, they're taken.    

[GoPanthers123]

This is one conspiracy theory that would surely leak because whoever knows the outcome would go directly to their bookie and be rolling in money.   There are implications of it being fixed that would manifest itself in so many ways that it would be obvious almost immediately.  

[Jangler]

lol Cam needs to really find that magic hat!

 

@TheRed I'm sorry snow is white. But you know Cam would rock the hat.

[Jangler]

 

1 hour ago, GoPanthers123 said:

This is one conspiracy theory that would surely leak because whoever knows the outcome would go directly to their bookie and be rolling in money.   There are implications of it being fixed that would manifest itself in so many ways that it would be obvious almost immediately.  

Cam fumbled 50, for a one day payday. Does anybody really believe that?

[Sgt Schultz]

Hopefully I’ll know more about this tomorrow morning at this time.  I was contacted by the aliens on the UFO that they are going to beam me up.  There plan is for me to meet with Elvis, JFK, and the passengers of Malysia flight 370.  Marilyn Monroe might be there, too. I’ll bring up the subject of the Super Bowl and see what they have to say.  I should be back by this dawn tomorrow.

The thing about conspiracies, and I am neither a believer or non-believer of them in general, is they have to be small to work.  The more people involved, the more likely somebody is to spill the beans or let something slip out.  And in the age where information (good or bad) can get out with the stroke of an enter key, that makes any plot of any size almost impossible to keep quiet.

[Lumps]

Charlottes tin foil sales are at an all time high 

[rippadonn]

The NFL is a business. They don't have to tell you how they make their sauce.

When they manipulate outcomes of their own product/property is it a crime?

There are many examples of fraud and conspiracy on a mass level.

What about the Libor manipulation? What about the McDonald's Monopoly scandal? Both long standing without outside detection.

To sit here and say humans aren't willing to commit fraud or conspire to cheat is quite the foolish notion.

Our court system has many examples to the contrary.

 

[RumHam]

he's black so no

[Zaximus]

23 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

The NFL didn't force Ron Rivera to go in with a dumb game plan. Neither did they hold a gun to his head and tell him that he wasn't allowed to make adjustments.

No but they keep terrible refs who keep making terrible decisions, the ones that missed I believe almost 20 bad calls in the Denver super bowl game.    So much that Manning didn't even need to play that game.    They also keep the rules muddied so they can bend them which way they want.

2 hours ago, GoPanthers123 said:

This is one conspiracy theory that would surely leak because whoever knows the outcome would go directly to their bookie and be rolling in money.   There are implications of it being fixed that would manifest itself in so many ways that it would be obvious almost immediately.  

It only takes one ref on a ref crew to swing momentum, or even a couple.   I don't think it would leak.     I also don't think it always works for them, but more often than not they can dictate the flow of the game.     This is all about ratings and keeping games tight, especially the SB.     This all started when Goodell took over and then you had "story-lines" in all the big games.    Besides they have people that refuse to see things on the field and keep defending the league, even if something leaked, they'd be able to deny it and all the fans would put their heads back into the sand.    Lower ratings = less money from advertisements, especially the SB.    Most of the money the NFL makes is revenue sharing so no team is losing money over these things.    Also since the NFL is an entertainment company, just like WWE, they wouldn't get in any legal trouble.  

[Sgt Schultz]

25 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

The NFL is a business. They don't have to tell you how they make their sauce.

When they manipulate outcomes of their own product/property is it a crime?

There are many examples of fraud and conspiracy on a mass level.

What about the Libor manipulation? What about the McDonald's Monopoly scandal? Both long standing without outside detection.

To sit here and say humans aren't willing to commit fraud or conspire to cheat is quite the foolish notion.

Our court system has many examples to the contrary.

 

Of course humans commit fraud and conspire to cheat.  But the problem is keeping it quiet. 

As was said earlier, the eyes that would be looking more closely at the NFL (or any professional sports league, unless you want to include WWE) are in Vegas.  How the professional sports games unfold is far more visible than the inner workings of the McDonald's Monopoly game and certainly more visible than the Libor.

Exactly how long did it take for MLB's "Black Sox scandal" to become known....in 1920?  And you think it would be more likely today?

Now if you are saying the conspiracy consisted of ensuring Mike Shula was promoted to OC knowing he would make no adjustments against a strong (or any) defense, and in fact would run the exact same offense he ran all year with no wrinkles or changes, that is easier to accept. 

While there are people who want to blame that loss on Cam Newton, that is about like blaming the 2007 mortgage collapse on the local bank mortgage representative.  It is much more likely that a good Denver defensive unit (including coaches) figured out the best way to make the Panthers offense ineffective.  That, too, is not unprecedented in Super Bowls. In fact, it has happened fairly often.

[Waldo]

Magic 8-ball says:

HAHA. He better pry it from their cold hands if he wants one.

[KillaCamNewton]

23 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

The NFL didn't force Ron Rivera to go in with a dumb game plan. Neither did they hold a gun to his head and tell him that he wasn't allowed to make adjustments.

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you wont find an easier super bowl matchup ever again. we had an elite defense and played against a QB who couldnt throw 10 yards down the field. if we didnt turn the ball over we could have won that game 10-3. they literally scored 3 legitimate points on our defense. everything else was off turnovers and a fluke punt return that we thought had a fair catch

[jim stone]

23 hours ago, Hotsauce said:

Many years from now when Cam is past his prime and a couple years away from retirement, having broken tons of NFL records and a consistent track record of being a good human on the field and off the field, could you see the NFL helping Cam add a SB to his resume?  They did it for Peyton.

 

*before you give me the NFL doesn’t give Super Bowls away argument, they have tons of control over teams and game flow.  From officiating calls, to scheduling, there are both small and major ways the NFL can give teams small nudges towards winning games.

 

Thoughts?

Irony here mentioning Cam and Peyton.  Cam was a major contributor to "giving" Peyton his SB.

[KillaCamNewton]

1 minute ago, thebigcat said:

exactly. Our offense poo'd the bed and everyone wants to act like the NFL gifted it to DEN. Let it go, Wade Phillips > Mike Shula

Shula sucked. But despite is incompetence if Tolbert wouldnt fumble in Denver territory and Ginn doesnt pop a pass up in the air to get picked off in the red zone we still probably win. Also blame bum Gano for missing a chip shot