89, Bottom Line, says stop blaming Cam's shoulder

[JamesPage]

12 hours ago, NJPanthers12 said:

It’s funny how with the same footwork he’s been completing those passes all season. He is clearly compensating, but hey let’s throw cam under the bus while we do everything in our power to absolve the moron head coach from blame.

It's not necessarily an either or situation...

It is possible that Cam has technique issues and RR is not a good coach at the same time.

[GoPanthers123]

Pre Pitt game Cam played at the most accurate level of his career and then he started compensating for some injury by adjusting his throwing motion.  Something is bothering him and numbers show it 

[raz]

some of y'all are so stupid.  its unbelievable.   billyt don't you need to get back to cleaning the poop screens at the treatment plant?   seriously, if poop were white he would hate white people like he does black people.   its his job that did this to him.

[GoPanthers123]

3 hours ago, Billy_T said:

Waah waah wahh waah.....

 

["write me a gigantic check" -- Cam -- ]

Before Pitt game he was 15 TD - 4 INT.  After Pitt game he is 7 TD - 7 INT.    I do not understand how one can argue with pure stats of his sudden decline.

[Jangler]

sounds like Cam really needs Peyton Manning about now.

[Jangler]

1 hour ago, raz said:

some of y'all are so stupid.  its unbelievable.   billyt don't you need to get back to cleaning the poop screens at the treatment plant?   seriously, if poop were white he would hate white people like he does black people.   its his job that did this to him.

clean shower water is a plus though. 

[raz]

7 minutes ago, GoPanthers123 said:

Before Pitt game he was 15 TD - 4 INT.  After Pitt game he is 7 TD - 7 INT.    I do not understand how one can argue with pure stats of his sudden decline.

dude, it's his blackness that has done it to him, not his shoulder, or our shitty line or.....they show up all the time to try to get this point across.  plus he's large and threatening and probably has a giant weiner their cousin bride would like to handle.  billy t is another proud boy who's figured out not to threaten violence so we can get rid of him.  

[raz]

1 minute ago, Jangler said:

clean shower water is a plus though. 

nice one.  i have a well, but i am glad he helps get y'all clean water

[Jangler]

6 hours ago, JamesPage said:

It's not necessarily an either or situation...

It is possible that Cam has technique issues and RR is not a good coach at the same time.

who does Cam really have to talk to about being a QB, and playing the position?  @Mr. Scot

Has he had anybody in the 8 years in the NFL that he can trust to make him better? Coach Rivera has finally lost control of this team, because of just getting enough done to bet by, and it has caused a lot of bad habits across the team. I bet Cam would respond to a QB he respects. Like Peyton as his QB coach, and a good jumping off place for Manning as well.

[Mr. Scot]

7 hours ago, Woodie said:

I disagree.  No, this isn't normal tired, but his arm is tired because he's not practicing.  The thing is that there is no way any of us has any legitimate idea of whether or not there's anything structurally wrong with the arm (it's 100% speculation and guesswork).  But we know for a fact that he's not getting his usual work in during game weeks because his arm is at least sore.  And that lack of work would absolutely show up as the type of fatigue we are seeing.

For the record, I am not saying there is nothing wrong with the shoulder, just that we have no real way of knowing...and even media reports have been nothing more than speculation.

There's a factor you haven't touched on though. Specifically, that his shoulder was diagnosed to have a structural problem previously, one that required surgery to fix.

Knowing that increases the likelihood that another problem could occur.

I'd add that while fatigue would tend to make a throwing motion more labored, it shouldn't alter it. Pain, on the other hand, will do exactly that.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Jangler said:

who does Cam really have to talk to about being a QB, and playing the position?  @Mr. Scot

Has he had anybody in the 8 years in the NFL that he can trust to make him better? Coach Rivera has finally lost control of this team, because of just getting enough done to bet by, and it has caused a lot of bad habits across the team. I bet Cam would respond to a QB he respects. Like Peyton as his QB coach, and a good jumping off place for Manning as well.

Yeah. Two guys named Turner, one of whom is known to have helped develop some of the better quarterbacks in the league.

[Jangler]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah. Two guys named Turner, one of whom is known to have helped develop some of the better quarterbacks in the league.

yeah, but that's less than a year. Cam was looking good in the first 8 games, then something happened....

No matter what, keep Norv, and there has to be a new injury or something that wasn't fixed the first time.

[Mr. Scot]

25 minutes ago, Jangler said:

yeah, but that's less than a year. Cam was looking good in the first 8 games, then something happened....

No matter what, keep Norv, and there has to be a new injury or something that wasn't fixed the first time.

I don't think you can keep Norv.

Turner came back for one last hurrah with an old friend, but it hasn't exactly worked out as planned.

You might be able to keep Scott, but that's probably only if Rivera stays.

[Silent Majority]

8 hours ago, Billy_T said:

Possibly the most uninformed and illogical comment ever made on any website within....

I see abstract/random responses are your thing, when you genuinely have no comeback. You operate on "feels" and try to pass them off as fact.