89, Bottom Line, says stop blaming Cam's shoulder

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, bull123 said:

No player is bigger than the team

I think there are quite a few on here that beg to differ.

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, leoslayer said:

It's happened 6 times this year. He's missed actually more than that Detroit, 4 against Washington, 2 against browns.

Am I forgetting any?

Oh you’re counting multiple throws in single games now? So I can count every time he’s thrown a tying touchdown, right?

[Carl Spackler]

Oh my god leoslayer is PFFL

[Saca312]

 

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Cam holds on to the ball too long because anticipating where the receiver will be and/or leading the receiver is not his forté. 

is this real? do people not watch Cam play at all?

I mean...Cam's been looking off safeties and throwing with anticipation since 2011. 

Good resource for you to read on how Cam Newton goes through reads, progressions, and anticipates his receivers.

Cam Newton going through progressions

[YungHamm]

2 hours ago, leoslayer said:

I didn't say some backs. I said game winning or tying td throws in the last 3 minutes. 

A comeback win usually is game tying or winning. Either way those examples were game winning in the last 3 minutes... Just admit you were misinformed.  Being wrong allows for growth

[Carl Spackler]

4 minutes ago, leoslayer said:

Tying or winning td pass in last 3 minutes of a game.

Already provided them hoss

[Carl Spackler]

8 minutes ago, leoslayer said:

I haven't had a chance to check your information yet. I've been working. 

But honestly I appreciate you giving me the info. 

Thank you very much.

I am privileged to do so 

[Carl Spackler]

5 minutes ago, leoslayer said:

Bears not a comeback but I'll take it.

2015 colts is incorrect

2015 giants incorrect

2017 Patriots nope

2017 bucs nope

What’s incorrect? 

[Carl Spackler]

1 minute ago, leoslayer said:

All of those were won or tied with a run or FG.

I just looked at every box score.

Hmm looks like passing had nothing to do with it huh

like I said earlier. Ignore reality because you don’t like it. 

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, Carl Spackler said:

Leoslayer is displaying prime Trumpster fire arguing technique

”name just one time ____ happened. You can’t”

*multiple examples provided*

”yes but name one other time ____ happened under [completely different metric]”

*more examples given*

”I refuse to believe this reality, therefore it is not real”

 

[Carl Spackler]

Passed for 54 yards. Ran for 2. “Doesn’t count”

[Carl Spackler]

@leoslayer I just hope you know that this thread documents your goalpost moving and blatant disregard of facts 

[Carl Spackler]

3 minutes ago, leoslayer said:

I asked a specific question. Td pass that ties or wins in the last 3 minutes. 

Not getting us into position.

That's awesome but a different situation. 

 

But I honestly thank you for pointing those out to me. Sincerely. 

 

I enjoy a nice conversation and a chance to learn something I forgot.

It’s an awfully specific, narrow metric. Why be so broad? Why not only count home games, or games in November? Maybe times when the weather was below 50?

by this standard, Tom Brady in fact did not have a comeback win in his first super bowl. Or his second. Or his third. 

[Carl Spackler]

1 minute ago, leoslayer said:

Why did you disregard the parameters of the question. 

I didn't ask for all game tying or winning drives.

He often often gets us down there.

Then why not count those? Sure seems dismissive to me.