89, Bottom Line, says stop blaming Cam's shoulder

[Harbingers]

2 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

If Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers had a 85 QB rating at halftime of a game, then they led their team to a win on a clutch fourth-quarter drive, would you say they were off?

You remember Steve Smith & Delhommie right? 

Steve Smith was our CMC.

[Harbingers]

Just now, Carl Spackler said:

Do you get what I was saying, or not?

 Not to belabor the point, I get what you are saying but I don’t think you understand otherwise. 

[Carl Spackler]

18 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I"ll agree to disagree on Smith. D.J. may not be as good as Smith said (while he was in an excited state, mind you), but he's not the trash you're trying to imply either. He began the year as a limited rookie, which can be said of the preponderance of rookie wide receivers. 

Smith will be proven right about Moore, and he was spot on about Kupp.

 

Cam holds on to the ball too long because anticipating where the receiver will be and/or leading the receiver is not his forté. 

Wright was absolutely open. All Cam had to do was put the ball farther in front of him (I.e., in the direction that Wright was running), and it would have been an easy TD.  

The play should have been made to Samuel. It was am easy throw, regardless of the decidedly average pressure. Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger and Rivers make that throw easily. I'm not used to seeing a veritable wounded duck from Cam.

 

Wait are we having to argue against DJ Moore sucking now? 2019 will finally be the year I log off from here

[Carl Spackler]

1 minute ago, Harbingers said:

 Not to belabor the point, I get what you are saying but I don’t think you understand otherwise. 

But you wouldn’t say they were off, so the same metric should apply to Cam when extrapolated over a longer period of time. Also, how did CMC bail out Cam in all those 2013 comebacks?

[Harbingers]

2 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

But you wouldn’t say they were off, so the same metric should apply to Cam when extrapolated over a longer period of time. Also, how did CMC bail out Cam in all those 2013 comebacks?

Did you forget what the original point of this thread was about?

[Carl Spackler]

2 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Did you forget what the original point of this thread was about?

No, I thought it was pretty obvious I was referring to the content in your post, which I quoted. 

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

Maybe not, but say that his shoulder issue is overblown and in an attempt to save his job Ron convinces management it's time to change directions at QB as part of his overhaul of the team.   

1. Tepper isn't that stupid.

2. Rivera isn't smart enough to convince him.

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, Snake said:

Funchess ran the wrong route. Either that or Cam wanted to lose.

Which should make a lot of the Cam Haters (who in this very thread are still pretending and thinking they've convinced otherwise) very happy since they've always wanted him to be the bestest of awesome losers.

[Carl Spackler]

10 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

1. Tepper isn't that stupid.

2. Rivera isn't smart enough to convince him.

If Ron did that, Dave would say “if he’s such a problem, why do you trot him out there instead of IRing him?”

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, leoslayer said:

My criteria is game winning comeback in last 3 minutes via td pass.

You can have a comeback winning pass in the 3rd quarter or at any point in the game if your defense holds from there.

 

Coincidentally 2 of the ones mentioned had zero pressure wide open receivers. 

1 was an awful pass with a great diving catch and the other was wide open.

But they count. You can’t discount them because it was during primetime, or when the weather was above 70 degrees, or when we wore blue jerseys. You’re grasping at straws here.

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

What if Ron conveniences Tepper to allow Hurney to trade Cam for a 1st this year so he can draft another QB? Not saying it's a possibility just a hypothetical question.

How many Huddlers would still be a Panther fan?   

 

But, responses above aside, I'll answer you.

No, I would not be.

But, to follow that up, I would also not be a fan of any other NFL team either.  Because I'd be DONE.  

Done 100% with the National Football League.

Cam Newton was a revelation for me.  I was a dinosaur that Ron Rivera would have been proud of before Cam Newton.  And then along comes this kid with SO much talent, SO much drive, SO much strength, SO much happiness, SO much joy... all about the game I grew up with and loved?  Who gifted my college team a national championship for the first time in 53 years all because of what he brought to that team? 

Who, as a professional, has sacrificed the health of his body for the sake of winning for a shitty ingrate head coach, an organization run by an old school racist horn-dog, and a bunch of ingrate fans who aren't worth a sequin on his ugliest honorary cleats?

Yeah, if its clear that the Carolina Panthers organization, their shitty ungrateful fanbase, and the National Football League were responsible for breaking and ruining that?  For taking Kunta Kinte and tearing him down until he's finally the Toby they've always wanted just so they can abuse him?

Yeah... I'd be done, brother.  Without a doubt.

[Carl Spackler]

[Carl Spackler]

Leoslayer is displaying prime Trumpster fire arguing technique

”name just one time ____ happened. You can’t”

*multiple examples provided*

”yes but name one other time ____ happened under [completely different metric]”

*more examples given*

”I refuse to believe this reality, therefore it is not real”

[Carl Spackler]

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