This is what Sean McVay Had to Say After Losing to the Bears

[RumHam]

The Boys and Bears are proof that the Saints ain't gonna do poo. fug the Saints. I don't mind the Rams, but Dallas has done what we needed to do as a player unit. These guys have earned their keep and it's nice to see Chicago do something. They're this year's Jaguars, which means they won't be poo next year, but the past two weeks have shown that defense will when championships still. BTW Go Chargers

[RumHam]

2 minutes ago, rbsponsel52 said:

The Bears could win but it is the "Dome" and winning in there is not a good place to do it as long as the Aints are favored and given the game single handedly by the team favoritism of the NFL.

LOL you get it.

[Moo Daeng]

With all the talent the Rams have I dont understand why McVay gets so much praise. They should be where they are in the standings if not higher.

[Mr. Scot]

39 minutes ago, CRA said:

I have heard him essentially say they were outcoached before.....but that was included in a list of reasons why.   Basically he will say, they did everything better which includes coached better. 

I have never heard him exclusively say a loss was on the coaches though.  He generally blames the execution. 

and in all honesty, we aren't losing games in 2018 because of coaching.   Firing coaches doesn't change the fact we are slow and bad in the secondary overall.  That we are unproductive on the DL.   I mean you can scheme up pressure but you can't coach around that.  It will be exposed in the NFL.  We have a legit talent issue on defense.    They can't execute what is needed at this level even when in great position by coaches. 

same goes for O.  Coaches actually put the O in great position overall on the year.  Problem pretty much is only our QB's arm is fugged.  Staff has still put our players in position to win almost every game and the players have imploded in those moments.  No amount of effort by Cam is going to fix his arm in season.   Pretty amazing the positions we have been in given how poo tastic our OL talent is as well. 

I've grown tired of Ron in lots of ways.  But coaching changes don't fix this team.  Talent does. 

 

Rivera manages the talent, and does so about as effectively as a manages the clock.

It's not like Rivera's coaching issues just showed up this year. We've all seen this before.

Said it elsewhere: This season is revising my views on the success of the last five years. I've begun to believe it's a miracle we won as many games with Rivera as we did.

[top dawg]

54 minutes ago, ickmule said:

The Bears D is real. Don't be surprised if that team is representing the NFC in this years SB. 

I would just like to point out that from the many comments that I've seen on the Huddle this past several weeks, some have forgotten that though "the NFL may be "geared toward offense," or an "offensive-driven league," that notion is still somewhat "fake news" within the wake of dominating defense.

[top dawg]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rivera manages the talent, and does so about as effectively as a manages the clock.

It's not like Rivera's coaching issues just showed up this year. We've all seen this before.

Said it elsewhere: This season is revising my views on the success of the last five years. I've begun to believe it's a miracle we won as many games with Rivera as we did.

Come on, man. No need for anything akin to revisionist history. We won the games, and did so when we arguably should not have due to weaknesses in personnel at key positions.

I do think that comparing his clock management to his managing of talent is interesting though. His proclivity to give vets the nod over talent kind of came home to roost this season.

[top dawg]

15 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

With all the talent the Rams have I dont understand why McVay gets so much praise. They should be where they are in the standings if not higher.

So, you're going to ding him for doing well with the talent that he was given? What about last year?

[trueblade]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Said it elsewhere: This season is revising my views on the success of the last five years. I've begun to believe it's a miracle we won as many games with Rivera as we did.

It is possible he's a decent coach who would have gone 8-8 most years, but who got elevated by all world talents? Almost half of Ron's career wins came in just two years, 2013 and 2015. (27 of 64 or 42% if I'm doing my math right). That would have been Cam's 3rd and 5th years and Luke's 2nd and 4th years. Cam and Luke were really coming into their own as players. Cam and Luke were at the top of their game mentally and physically. 2016, Cam hurt his shoulder and Luke missed the final six games with a concussion (6-10). Those two were healthy again in 2017 (11-5), but Cam got hurt in Pittsburgh this year and we haven't won a game since.

[TheCasillas]

Finally McVay gets some humblie pie. The dude makes reckless coaching decisions week to week. It finally caught up with him last night. That roster bails him out more than any coach in the NFL. 

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Come on, man. No need for anything akin to revisionist history. We won the games, and did so when we arguably should not have due to weaknesses in personnel at key positions.

I do think that comparing his clock management to his managing of talent is interesting though. His proclivity to give vets the nod over talent kind of came home to roost this season.

You do realize what the major difference between Rivera's successful five year run and his other years was, right?

[top dawg]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You do realize what the major difference between Rivera's successful five year run and his other years was, right?

And you already know what I've said and think about it. Apparently we're going to ALWAYS disagree about it, so discussion is pointless at this point.

[TheRed]

Ron Rivera is mind numbingly stubborn.

He's just going to go veering straight off that cliff like the O'Doyle family from Billy Madison regardless of what anyone else has to say.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

And you already know what I've said and think about it. Apparently we're going to ALWAYS disagree about it, so discussion is pointless at this point.

It's not an opinion. It's an objective fact. Every single season where Ron Rivera made the playoffs, he did so with a roster that was built by Dave Gettleman.

As a combo, Ron Rivera and Marty Hurney have never even achieved a winning season, much less the playoffs. Doesn't exactly look like that's going to change this year either. 

Basically, Hurney took an 11-5 team left to him by Gettleman and within a year turned it into what we see now. And here we are again, in pretty much exactly the same spot we were when Hurney and Rivera worked together the last time.

Now you can go through a thousand mental gymnastics to try and explain these facts away, but you can't deny the reality. The fact that you continually attempt to do so stains your credibility and any claim you might try to make to being objective.

Dave Gettleman let go of some of your favorite players. I get it. I just don't care.

What I do care about is that when he was in charge here, we won. Now he's not, and we're not.

It's time to clean house.

[pantherclaw]

I haven't seen Rivera ever deflect accountability. It's one of the reasons the players love him, is his accountability.  The rest of you are definitely grasping at straws saying Rivera isn't accountable.  Makes me wonder if you even pay attention. 

I know, it doesn't meet the hurdles narrative.