Vernon Butler A Healthy Scratch For 2nd Consecutive Week

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There is no way outside of effort that he should suck this hard.

[OneBadCat]

50 minutes ago, bobsfoodbasics said:

it's over johnny 

The Huddle to Vernon Butler

 

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6 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I don’t think it’s effort at all. Remember him almost hurting his knee either in preseason or early in the season when he was running after a play 15 yards downfield and hurdled a player and landed awkwardly? If he was lolly gagging all over there’d be multiple threads on it. He’s gotten penalties for going a little extra. His issues are either overrated talent and/or coaching not making him better. I’m honestly not sure which it is and we won’t know until he’s on another team. I’m getting less impressed every game with our coaching and Butler’s on his 3rd DC in three years.

Nope, wrong

[rico6]

2016’s offseason has set this franchise back years, as far as talent acquisition and development goes. A literal waste of an NFL season. 

 

[rico6]

29 minutes ago, Palmetto said:

We had a lot of people here defending that bad pick

A fugton. 

[Carolina Cajun]

Only Panthers bust that is fatter and lazier than Kelvin.  Never trust a laturd redneck university a hole

[rico6]

58 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Lol. Blaming Gettleman is comical. Did Gettleman decide not to challenge Golloday clearly being out of bounds on third down giving Detroit 4 or even 7 points that they shouldn’t have had? Did Gettleman cost us 5 points like Ganope in the same game? Did Gettleman cause us to get barely any points when we’re dominating Seattle and couldn’t score in the red zone and then miss a potential game winning FG again? Did Gettleman fumble (wasn’t even his pick) and throw bad passes to lose to Washington? Did Gettleman miss a wide open Samuel (his pick) and throw 4 INTs?

What can’t I understand? That Hunter Henry missing this year with an ACL tear and being an OK TE wouldn’t have done anything this year?

If you actually blame Gettleman for our failures this year, you are so out of touch with reality it’s not even funny. Gettleman isn’t here anymore and Vernon Butler being inactive has 0 to do with being 6-6. 

Gettleman has fuged this team over from a talent standpoint for the next few years (barring miracles) his entire tenure here, he never drafted/developed a competent DE, never took importance in finding Greg’s replacement, taking fliers on multiple 1st round selections that are either healthy game day scratches, or ineffective starters (Shaq is literally just there) replacing this team’s greatest WR with a career journeyman (Benjamin) and a fugton of other shitty moves.

Gettleman rode the coattails of Hurney’s picks/signings and now that they’re effectively out of their primes (old) you get the shitshow that we witness on Sundays.

Old fang-less players collecting a check. 

[rico6]

Just now, stbugs said:

Yep, that was all Gettleman’s fault, lol. CMC and Samuel great. Donte who everyone thinks is going to be a CB1 who gave up the huge PI last week as well, not so great.

You guys keep thinking this is all Gettleman’s fault. That’ll make you feel better. 

Yes it was.. and Donte is much further along as a complete CB than Bradberry/Worley/Sanchez/Elder combined lol.

[LinvilleGorge]

Take a moment and consider just how awful an NFL defensive lineman has to be not to be able to get on the field for this football team right now.

[LinvilleGorge]

*wrong thread

[Steve_Smith_Sr.]

He's gone.. should have happened a season ago.  Major bust.

[WarHeel]

Gettlefugginmagic.

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, stbugs said:

At this point, I don’t trust Ron’s judgement or ability to improve players at all. I’d give credit more to Luke than Ron for any success. It’s great to dump on Butler but would it really surprise you if he played better under a better coach? We’ve given up 17 at halftime because Luke made a great play and a wide open WR dropped a TD (same one who fumbled). We haven’t stopped them at all. 

I don't think this is an either/or thing. I think it's both. Butler is trash and so is Ron.

[heel31ok]

3 hours ago, t96 said:

2016 was a bad draft overall outside of top 5 but my God our picks were just unaccepatable. One contributor from the entire draft and he's right now just an average starter who could easily be replaced (say if we get Josh in FA next year if Skins cut him and then he and Donte start...). DG had some great later round picks (KK, Turner, Williams, Moton) but man his first rounds were trash until McC. Star was fine but I expected better from a top 15 pick.

the nail in the coffin...draft of desperation