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[jtm]

4 minutes ago, Mikey818 said:

What’s holding him back? First it was Shula so we got Norv then lack of weapons and we have an all world rb and fast wideouts  now it’s ron. So under what scenario would we win with cam?

I'm over making excuses for Cam and we see a lot of other QBs do more with less.  My biggest issue with Cam is I don't trust him to deliver game winning drives.  He's having a career year and he's been terrible running the 2 minute offense.  Stats don't show this but anyone that has watched the Panthers this year can't feel good about Cam in the 2 minute offense.  

Now it seems he can't stay healthy and this is a problem because a pocket passing Cam that can't or won't scramble is not a very good QB.  Take away Cam's ability to run and and you only have an average to below average QB and the stats back this up.  

[MechaZain]

9 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

Is Cam a better QB than Flacco, Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Hostetler or Eli?

Yeah but unlike the panthers those teams could win without a great performance from their QB

[Inimicus]

Just now, MechaZain said:

Yeah but unlike the panthers those teams could win without a great performance from their QB

Thats my point.

 

If the D was playing anywhere near the level they've played in the past few years we would be talking about HFA and first round byes.

[jayflip]

17 minutes ago, RumHam said:

What's fuged up is the first name that came to mind that would be perfect here is Josh McDaniels. Then, I remembered the screw job with the Colts and he's tied down to that franchise. And then i was like fug, you know who would be better? fuging Frank Reich. Returning home to his first starting position. Not happening now though. Why aren't we going after the Oklahoma guy? fug Kliff Kingsbury.

McDaniels would be bad news for us. Can't forget what he did to single handedly dismantle a very solid Broncos roster to bring them to the gutter. 

[rippadonn]

Now Ron will take a 9-7 Panther team into the SB and win it all.

[Sgt Schultz]

 

21 minutes ago, BudFox said:

I like the line, "What we're getting for three hours on Sunday should be better than this,".  Sums up the situation.  And the blank slate situation is rare and should attract a group of coaches we'd probably never get with the previous owner.

I thought that summed up the Panthers pretty well, even before the 4-game slide.  With the possible exceptions of the Bengals, Ravens, and first Bucs game, it applies across the board.

1 minute ago, MechaZain said:

Yeah but unlike the panthers those teams could win without a great performance from their QB

Exactly.  Even I could have played QB for those teams because there were some dominating defenses in that group, and the Giants had a bruising running game.  The Giants teams that won with Eli were arguably the weakest on that list and they stepped it up to this level when the playoffs came.

You can make a credible case that perhaps the Panthers could have taken the whole thing in 2015 had a game manager played in the Super Bowl.  The Broncos were barely noticeable on offense in that game, and 18 of their 24 points happened with 3 yards of offense.  The problem is that without some heroics out of Cam earlier in the season, they might not have been around to play that game.

Pretending our 2018 defense could impact a game, any game, to the level of the teams those QBs played on is a fool's errand.

[KillaCamNewton]

51 minutes ago, Mikey818 said:

Can you win a ring with cam ?? That’s the question to be answered

it's like people forget that even with Shula calling plays, arena football level receivers, and Mike Remmers getting abused by Von Miller you can still find yourself down 6 with the ball in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl with Cam Newton as your QB

[Chaos]

38 minutes ago, Mikey818 said:

What’s holding him back? First it was Shula so we got Norv then lack of weapons and we have an all world rb and fast wideouts  now it’s ron. So under what scenario would we win with cam?

Cam's not the problem this year, it's the soft swiss cheese defense that can't get off the field on 3rd down making below average offenses look like the Patriots.  The game last Sunday was an aberration.  I really want to believe that every fan can see what the Panthers record would be if the defense had shown up this season. 

[therealmjl]

Humorous that these idiot trolls have managed to turn this into a Cam bash fest.

This fanbase is the absolute worst

[therealmjl]

58 minutes ago, Mikey818 said:

Can you win a ring with cam ?? That’s the question to be answered

Go away forever

[Sgt Schultz]

21 minutes ago, jayflip said:

McDaniels would be bad news for us. Can't forget what he did to single handedly dismantle a very solid Broncos roster to bring them to the gutter. 

He should have been fired before he even coached his first game there.  Then add the Indy "I'm in, just kidding" scenario and I don't know why anybody would get within 500 miles of him.

[Mikey818]

6 minutes ago, mjligon said:

Go away forever

It’s a legitimate question I like Cam but this seems to be a cam love fest forum where we make excuses for cam and blame every other player and coach except cam 

[therealmjl]

1 minute ago, Mikey818 said:

It’s a legitimate question I like Cam but this seems to be a cam love fest forum where we make excuses for cam and blame every other player and coach except cam 

Have you watched our games this season? Are you blind?

Cam missed a throw on a 2pt conversion and played poorly last week. 

Big deal.

Our coaching staff and defense have plagued us all year.

[Castavar]

This defense hasn't been able to stop anybody on 3rd down all fuggin year, and somehow this fanbase still finds a way to bash our future hall of fame QB. God we do not deserve Cam. If our defense could stop ANYBODY, we would legit be 9-3 right now. After all the sh*t this man has done for us, carrying this stupid ass franchise on his shoulders for 8 years now, making a dipsh*t coach a two time coach of the year, smashing the NFL and winning MVP (with Ted fuggin Ginn as his #1 receiver) only to have his coaches come out with the dumbest gameplan EVER in a superbowl, while also having to deal with practice squad level WR talent almost his whole career, you would think this fanbase would be more appreciative, but I guess they yearn for the Clausen and Matt Moore days.