You all are really overestimating the chances Ron is gone

[CBDellinger]

Y’all keep trotting out Mcvay like it’s the rule and not the exception.

[MVPccaffrey]

1 minute ago, CBDellinger said:

Y’all keep trotting out Mcvay like it’s the rule and not the exception.

Yup it's much much much more likely we cycle through gus bradley or ben mcadoo coaches go turn in actual losing records like 3-13 or 4-12 than we find a Mcvay type.  Cam might only have 3-4 years left at best as a franchise qb, those concerned about "wasting" him should want to stick with the coach who has proven he can get to a superbowl.

[CBDellinger]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That doesn't answer why Tepper didn't come out and show confidence in Rivera.

if you're not seriously looking at firing a coach, why do you leave intact the public perception that you are?

The only owner that makes those kinda comments one way or the other is Jerry Jones.  

No one knows what Tep is thinking... but he’s certainly smart enough to to put his thoughts either way out into the media like the afore mentioned dumbass that ruins the Dallas Cowboys.  

I dunno why everyone here wants to project what they want to happen as “this is gonna happen!”  It’s silly.

 

 

 

  

[Tbe]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

Did you know ahead of time that McVay would be bad too?

There’s a lot of survivor/success bias in that statement. More coaching changes fail than succeed. 

Maybe the Vikings or Titans OC will be great. Who knows. I’ll Tepper figure that out. They just don’t look exceptional to me.

[Davidson Deac II]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That doesn't answer why Tepper didn't come out and show confidence in Rivera.

if you're not seriously looking at firing a coach, why do you leave intact the public perception that you are?

In my experience, coming out and saying you have confidence in a coach means he is probably gone at the end of the season, unless the team turns around dramatically.  And public perception is irrelevant at this point.  There are 5 games left, and at the end of the season, either he will stay or go.  

I am not saying he will or wont be fired, or that he should or shouldn't be.  Only that we are just guessing and know almost nothing.

[Mr. Scot]

25 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

Y’all keep trotting out Mcvay like it’s the rule and not the exception.

And you guys are acting like Ron Rivera is a Belichick level coach that our franchise could never possibly replace.

He's just not that good.

And McVay is just the most recent example. It's not like new coaches never succeed.

[TheSpecialJuan]

3 hours ago, CatMan72 said:

Yup and Tepper believes in the Steelers model of patience. Could see Hurney gone first, new GM gets to evaluate Rivera and decide if he wants to go in a new direction. I could see the new GM insisting on a hand in asst.coaching decisions after this debacle.

Mike Florio said something similar today on his site. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

In my experience, coming out and saying you have confidence in a coach means he is probably gone at the end of the season, unless the team turns around dramatically.  And public perception is irrelevant at this point.  There are 5 games left, and at the end of the season, either he will stay or go.  

I'm familiar with the dreaded vote of confidence, but suggesting that no comment is somehow a positive is a huge reach.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Tbe said:

There’s a lot of survivor/success bias in that statement. More coaching changes fail than succeed. 

Maybe the Vikings or Titans OC will be great. Who knows. I’ll Tepper figure that out. They just don’t look exceptional to me.

Dan Campbell looks very impressive to a lot of people.

[CBDellinger]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm familiar with the dreaded vote of confidence, but suggesting that no comment is somehow a positive is a huge reach.

Just like it’s a reach to say it’s negative... cause reality is... you don’t know.  

[Davidson Deac II]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm familiar with the dreaded vote of confidence, but suggesting that no comment is somehow a positive is a huge reach.

I am not saying its a positive.  I am saying we don't know if the lack of comment means anything.  

If I had to hazard a guess, I would say he is gone if we don't make the playoffs.  But its just a guess.  

[jfra78]

3 hours ago, Camvp said:

Team is likely going to finish 8-8 or 9-7.  

Too many of you are prisoners of the moment.  Coaches don't get fired after going 11-5 one year and then putting up a .500 or better record the next.  It just doesn't happen outside of rare circumstances.  Fox out of Denver was the only one I can think of recently, and that had a whole host of extenuating circumstances tied up in that.

Much more likely that Hurney is let go, and a months long GM search is conducted with Ron left in place to steer the ship, and then if he doesn't perform up to expectations in 2019, the new GM can then easily let him go and find his own man.

8-8 and 9-7 is a poor performance considering we started 6-2.  Coaches make a name for themselves in the second half of the season not the first.  soa 2-6 or 3-5 second half record should get Ron Fired.   You can see that is the case with Ron demoting Washington, he knows if he doesnt go 10-6, he is gone.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I am not saying its a positive.  I am saying we don't know if the lack of comment means anything.  

If I had to hazard a guess, I would say he is gone if we don't make the playoffs.  But its just a guess.  

It means one thing quite clearly. 

It means he didn't deny it.

And seriously, does Ron Rivera look and act like a guy who believes he's safe right now?

[CBDellinger]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It means one thing quite clearly. 

It means he didn't deny it.

And seriously, does Ron Rivera look and act like a guy who believes he's safe right now?

Or confirm it.  

Stop projecting.