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Opinions: put Cam on IR now

Jmac

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MHS831 Grand Master

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we have 2 games left vs the saints--if we split, we are 9-7 at best--here is the scary part.

RR, if not fired now, will be willing to sacrifice Cam to save his butt.  Here is the problem---you have an elite qb and for his entire career, you surround him with turd WRs, overpaid and aging Rbs and  and a makeshift Oline.  When he starts showing signs of the constant pounding, RR blames player execution. 

In 2016, we sucked but let Cam play hurt at the end of the season and he did not have surgery until like March or something--missed camp, etc.  If Cam is hurt, pull him now.  Too early to call it yet, but giving him to RR puts him at risk.

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1 hour ago, ARSEN said:

Cam becomes expendable after this year for the new coaching stuff.  Cam only has $8M in dead money after 2018 or $4M if he’s allocated post June cut.  Panthers can save over $19M by cutting him in 2018.  If Cam gets Andrew Luck surgery, he’s done as a Panther.

Wow that’s pretty crazy you’d even consider that. Yea I’m worried about the shoulder but it shouldn’t be career ending.

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43 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Wow that’s pretty crazy you’d even consider that. Yea I’m worried about the shoulder but it shouldn’t be career ending.

It depends on the severity of the injury, IMO. RR has ridden Cam into the ground and all those hits are showing. I hate to say it, but if that injury is severe, and the likelihood of him returning to form are questionable, it's something you have to consider. If RR isn't canned by tomorrow, I see him playing Cam regardless and potentially serving him up a career ending injury in that shoulder. Sadly, I don't think we even know if Cam is really injured until RR hits the bricks. 

75% Cam is better than 50% of the QBs starting in the league right now. No one is questioning Cam's heart or his passion to win. I'm questioning whether Ron served up Cam's career to save his own ass, and the answer is yes. 

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1 hour ago, TheRed said:

QB's are getting paid crazy money. None of you are changing that. Posturing about Newton's salary cap hit considering he's making what Matt Ryan was on his last contract is just buffoonery. We're getting quite a deal for him considering everything he's brought to the table. Even if you bring in another QB, if he's any good you're going to have to pay him before you know it too. That's the NFL. This is precisely why I've been telling Panthers fans to appreciate what you have with Newton while he's here. Instead you get fans gloating when he fails. You get what you give.

The other way teams are doing it is riding guys on their rookie deals. Philly last year, KC and the Rams this year. 

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33 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

It depends on the severity of the injury, IMO. RR has ridden Cam into the ground and all those hits are showing. I hate to say it, but if that injury is severe, and the likelihood of him returning to form are questionable, it's something you have to consider. If RR isn't canned by tomorrow, I see him playing Cam regardless and potentially serving him up a career ending injury in that shoulder. Sadly, I don't think we even know if Cam is really injured until RR hits the bricks. 

75% Cam is better than 50% of the QBs starting in the league right now. No one is questioning Cam's heart or his passion to win. I'm questioning whether Ron served up Cam's career to save his own ass, and the answer is yes. 

Totally agree

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

we have 2 games left vs the saints--if we split, we are 9-7 at best--here is the scary part.

RR, if not fired now, will be willing to sacrifice Cam to save his butt.  Here is the problem---you have an elite qb and for his entire career, you surround him with turd WRs, overpaid and aging Rbs and  and a makeshift Oline.  When he starts showing signs of the constant pounding, RR blames player execution. 

In 2016, we sucked but let Cam play hurt at the end of the season and he did not have surgery until like March or something--missed camp, etc.  If Cam is hurt, pull him now.  Too early to call it yet, but giving him to RR puts him at risk.

At this point, I don't think anyone doubts that Rivera would run Newton through a barbed wire fence if he thought it would help him win.

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