Opinions: put Cam on IR now

[Moneyman321]

1 minute ago, AggieLean said:

Cam has had his best season, and was up there with other elite QBs in most statistical categories.. What are you talking about?

Yes statistically he has had his “best” season. But time and time again this year he has failed when it matters most in a one score game. (Redskins, Lions, Seahawks, Bucs). Which speaks to my point he isn’t consistent. He puts up good numbers but cannot sustain that to the final quarter or final drive or final pass. W’s matter more than percentages or yards

[AggieLean]

1 minute ago, Moneyman321 said:

Yes statistically he has had his “best” season. But time and time again this year he has failed when it matters most in a one score game. (Redskins, Lions, Seahawks, Bucs). Which speaks to my point he isn’t consistent. He puts up good numbers but cannot sustain that to the final quarter or final drive or final pass. W’s matter more than percentages or yards

So, you’re saying Cam is the real problem? Well then, what should be done?

 

15 4th qtr comebacks puts him up there with some of the really good QBs currently active, and if he kept to his current trajectory, he’d pass Brady in leading his team back.

[Ja Rhule]

Cam becomes expendable after this year for the new coaching stuff.  Cam only has $8M in dead money after 2018 or $4M if he’s allocated post June cut.  Panthers can save over $19M by cutting him in 2018.  If Cam gets Andrew Luck surgery, he’s done as a Panther.

[Kevin Greene]

2 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

Cam becomes expendable after this year for the new coaching stuff.  

Huh?

When did top 10 QBs ever become expendable?

[tondi]

I don't think Cams to blame at all for the season going in the toilet but he was clearly struggling to put any velocity on the ball today, and any NFL QB should be able to get a hail mary from midfield to the end zone.  If he's injured I agree with shutting him down if a doctor thinks that the extra month off would help him get ready for next season. 

[Moneyman321]

12 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

So, you’re saying Cam is the real problem? Well then, what should be done?

 

15 4th qtr comebacks puts him up there with some of the really good QBs currently active, and if he kept to his current trajectory, he’d pass Brady in leading his team back.

No, In the right situation a QB like Cam can reach or win a Super Bowl (2015 or Flacco). But with the Elite teams getting better and set up for the long term, you have to wonder if that right situation will come again. I want to see Rivera gone and get an offensive coach to help Cam more. 

But I also don’t think Cam is as elite as some of the people think he is on this board. I think your comeback stat could be a little misleading. Brady doesn’t have to comeback most of the time because he is already ahead. However, when the game is on the line, I can think of at least 5 QBs I rather have than Cam. Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Big Ben, Wilson, Mahomes, and possibly even Deshaun Watson. 

[Saha]

Getting rid of Newton doesn’t make a whole lot of sense in my opinion. What makes the most sense, I.e. what we won’t do, is to shut him down for the season, let him have surgery if that’s what he needs, or let him just rest and get ready for next season. At the very least he has no business playing in meaningless games and risking injury.

[Ja Rhule]

11 minutes ago, Saha said:

Getting rid of Newton doesn’t make a whole lot of sense in my opinion. What makes the most sense, I.e. what we won’t do, is to shut him down for the season, let him have surgery if that’s what he needs, or let him just rest and get ready for next season. At the very least he has no business playing in meaningless games and risking injury.

Unfortunately, from business standpoint... you do not shutdown someone with possible career ending injury and pay him 20% of your cap space to watch tv.  Cam salary goes up to almost $24M next season.

[TheRed]

1 hour ago, KillaCamNewton said:

I think even Cam is tired of you riding his nut sack. No one is questioning his IQ lol, I know you think this whole fan base watches games before they head to their klan rallies each Sunday but we all love Cam and we’re legitimately concerned about his health. A 6’5 guy in his 20s who looks like an action figure struggling to heave the ball 40 yards down the field is cause for concern, and it makes you question whether or not he should be playing and whether or not it’s detrimental to his career to keep him out there if he isnt healthy. Stop being so defensive over someone who doesnt even know who you are

Flat out saying there is no excuse for him to throw 4 picks is "riding his nutsack" in your mind? In what world? I was quite clear on my opinion of how this game went for him regardless of circumstances.

I've seen his intelligence questioned numerous times here over the years. I've even seen someone calling him scam recently. You want to play for someone like that? There's a huge difference between that and admitting he didn't have a good game.

Ask yourself if a Packers or Patriots fan would show up to a game to mock someone like Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady after they were in a dangerous car accident. Remember that? That's how deep this runs. White boys like you with no skin in the game won't see it.

[Saha]

7 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

Unfortunately, from business standpoint... you do not shutdown someone with possible career ending injury and pay him 20% of your cap space to watch tv.  Cam salary goes up to almost $24M next season.

That’s a very fair point. But if you’re talking money I believe it’d cost us more in the long run if he missed playing time due to injury or god forbid some career ended.

[LxDunn]

1 hour ago, leoslayer said:

Lol no this wasn't the best QB season in team history. 

You guys fellate Cam so hard.

Shut up 

[Saha]

Have to say I really disagree with the people saying Cam is done. I think if he’s healthy (and right now I think he’s not, which is why I support either IR or sitting out) he’s a top 10 QB. I think what cam needs to thrive is a different HC, GM, and some damn protection.

[The Lone Panther]

45 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Flat out saying there is no excuse for him to throw 4 picks is "riding his nutsack" in your mind? In what world? I was quite clear on my opinion of how this game went for him regardless of circumstances.

I've seen his intelligence questioned numerous times here over the years. I've even seen someone calling him scam recently. You want to play for someone like that? There's a huge difference between that and admitting he didn't have a good game.

Ask yourself if a Packers or Patriots fan would show up to a game to mock someone like Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady after they were in a dangerous car accident. Remember that? That's how deep this runs. White boys like you with no skin in the game won't see it.

Was that needed?

[TheRed]

QB's are getting paid crazy money. None of you are changing that. Posturing about Newton's salary cap hit considering he's making what Matt Ryan was on his last contract is just buffoonery. We're getting quite a deal for him considering everything he's brought to the table. Even if you bring in another QB, if he's any good you're going to have to pay him before you know it too. That's the NFL. This is precisely why I've been telling Panthers fans to appreciate what you have with Newton while he's here. Instead you get fans gloating when he fails. You get what you give.