Is this the most talented 7-9 team we’ve ever had?

[Carl Spackler]

I look at the 1995 and 2004 teams and think they could’ve been better, especially the 2004 injury-riddled team, but this year’s Panthers (especially with our offensive skill players) makes me think they’re up there. Our bottom-five defense just gives me pause. 

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Look at 2003 and 2005. 2004 team had talent but was injured to hell. This team just sucks

[Paintballr]

We’ve had good teams get stopped by injuries. 

We’ve never had a team this good that doesn’t do well because of coaching 

[bigdog10]

Your kidding yourself if you think this team is talented. Yes, we have some very talented starters in guys like Cam, Luke, CMC, Olsen, Davis, but this team is completely devoid of talented depth and role players. 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

Lol

[bobsfoodbasics]

when are they winning their 7th game exactly?

[Carl Spackler]

1 minute ago, bigdog10 said:

Your kidding yourself if you think this team is talented. Yes, we have some very talented starters in guys like Cam, Luke, CMC, Olsen, Davis, but this team is completely devoid of talented depth and role players. 

We’re actually really talented if there were no such thing as defense or a kicking game 

[Carl Spackler]

1 minute ago, bobsfoodbasics said:

when are they winning their 7th game exactly?

Tampa, Cleveland or Week 17 squeaker against Teddy. Ron won’t go down without a December win 

[JARROD]

The 2004 team was destined for greatness and should have repeated the Super Bowl,.. been there to beat Phily and face the Patriots again,. Serious divine intervention at some of the injuries that torpedoed that season,..

No way this team minus Cam even compares

[FugAllY'all]

On offense, definitely. I think this the main problem, Ron doesn't understand how to a coach a team where offense and passing are your strengths. He still coaches like the defense will only give up 14 if we just avoid turnovers and negative plays.

[TheRed]

Defense is really effing rough right now regardless of coaching. Let's just get that out of the way.

But this team has tremendous Super Bowl caliber talent on offense.

It's basically John Fox all over again with the propensity for being way too reliant on a conservative play it safe style of game management. Except that Ron Rivera, through what I can only assume at this point nearly a decade into his head coaching gig is either sheer ignorance or arrogant stubbornness, simply will not ever fully embrace a more aggressive style of game management unless his back is completely against the wall when it's too late. Like going for 2 against the Lions.

[RumHam]

Who said we are winning another game

[RumHam]

We went into this season KNOWINGLY with this secondary. There was a pass rush today and the secondary still look like it came from wofford. Offensive side possibly most talent, but 2006 2004 

[Goondal]

We will get to 8-8, just missing back to back winning seasons and making the Seattle, Washington, and Detroit games all the more painful.