The 4th and 3

[Inimicus]

We made the wrong call on 4th.  Shoulda taken the 3.

 

Yes Im saying that with the luxury of 20/20 hindsight. edit:And everyone questioning the call needs to recognize you're taking advantage of knowing the outcome of the play.

[The Lobo]

Just now, Inimicus said:

We made the wrong call on 4th.  Shoulda taken the 3.

 

Yes Im saying that with the luxury of 20/20 hindsight.

No, you’re right. Should have kicked it.

[Inimicus]

2 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

No, you’re right. Should have kicked it.

Last week folks questioned aggressive play calling when I can well imagine those same folk wanting to pillory RR if he goes conservative.

 

We stayed aggressive and played to win. I dont like the outcome but I dont hate the calls.

 

The D failed the O.  Simple as that.  The folks around here who are quick to bitch about us going conservative on O play calling need to STFU.

[heel31ok]

4 hours ago, The Lobo said:

Does anyone have another angle of the 4th and 3 in the first? The camera angle they showed were both poor shots of the run. However, on the camera from behind it clearly looked like we got the first down. The tv instant replays were garbage and I hope that’s not what the officials looked at.

he made it ,no doubt...

[nickzz]

1 hour ago, OceanPanther said:

When Lockett scored on the pass play, coming back to the ball while in the endzone..  Miraculously there was a camera looking right down the goal line/

Why no camera on the 4 th and 3 from the side or over head.. they have that flying on strings camera to goes into the huddles etc..

Now,,  how many of you think we got away with a pick play on McCaffery's  TD reception in that end zone ??  

It's never even,, and it doesn't even out over a season ...   But we do get some calls too..

I hate those who say the refs missed holding calls..    Yeah,, I agree and I know that goes both ways..  It is true, you could call holding on about 100 % of the plays..  

of course there are going to be missed holding calls. we are upset about the glaringly obvious holds right in front of the QB in hugely important situations. like KK Short today was absolutely mugged on a play that resulted in a 30 yard completion, which was followed up by a TD.

[The Lobo]

14 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

Last week folks questioned aggressive play calling when I can well imagine those same folk wanting to pillory RR if he goes conservative.

 

We stayed aggressive and played to win. I dont like the outcome but I dont hate the calls.

 

The D failed the O.  Simple as that.  The folks around here who are quick to bitch about us going conservative on O play calling need to STFU.

I say we should have kicked it bc it was early. I’m like you, I didn’t hate the call, I just hated the ruling. We got hosed. The D has failed the O on about every loss this year. Ultimately, that’s the problem with this team. Play calling has been good enough to win, the D is giving up way too much for us to win. 

[cptx]

Just now, nickzz said:

of course there are going to be missed holding calls. we are upset about the glaringly obvious holds right in front of the QB in hugely important situations. like KK Short today was absolutely mugged on a play that resulted in a 30 yard completion, which was followed up by a TD.

They are ignoring holding far more than usual across the league this year. just watching other games besides the panthers I've seen hardly any holding calls. It's fkn stupid. You know they'll still call it if its all they have to use to influence a big game down the stretch though.

[nickzz]

45 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

Last week folks questioned aggressive play calling when I can well imagine those same folk wanting to pillory RR if he goes conservative.

 

We stayed aggressive and played to win. I dont like the outcome but I dont hate the calls.

 

The D failed the O.  Simple as that.  The folks around here who are quick to bitch about us going conservative on O play calling need to STFU.

totally fine with conservative play calling or aggressive play calling if the situation calls for it. the problem is rivera has absolute zero clue when to use one or the other.