105 points last night!

[Lumps]

6 hours ago, TheRed said:

Talent and firepower are there for us offensively, OL is ultimately holding us back.

I wouldn't say the whole line. Until Thursday night the oline was ranked above average.

After Thursday it's ranked right in the middle of all of the NFL. The issue are Roten and Kalil. Turner and Moton are doing great. Clark isn't the best but you have to remember he is taking on the best of the Dline and plays the hardest position on the line. Also when this team runs to the right, there are much better results.

The left side needs help, bad. I don't get why the huddle is on R Kalil nuts so much he is hurting this team.

The dline (despite stats), poor tackling and left side of the oline are this team's biggest problems.

[MechaZain]

8 hours ago, SpeedOFLight said:

I honestly believe it’s more of an execution probably. Look at how man times we whiffed tackles. Had the RB behind the line of scrimmage only to try a weak arm tackle. Those drops from Funchess were big. Killed our momentum. Poor Clark was getting thrown around a few times didn’t help. We just need to be more disciplined. I thought our secondary played solid. That TD was just an amazing catch over Bradbury. Only thing I blame of coaching is not challenging that play on the sideline were Bradbury almost picked it

Execution and discipline becomes a coaching problem when it's a trend.

[juliosantos]

saints will score 105 vs us

[JakeDel5674]

Paging Lincoln Riley. Paging Lincoln Riley. Are you there Lincoln? The Carolina Panthers and David Tepper are on line 1, and we would like to pay you around 7 million to leave Oklahoma. Please Lincoln, we have two Hall of Famers on this team. Please come save us, and be innovative on offense. So we never have to see Ron Rivera's moronic ass ever again. 

[KillerKat]

Guarantee Rivera was bored of this game and feel asleep on the couch by halftime

[Wanderlai]

Rams, Saints, and Chiefs are on another level. Our offense can’t keep up with any of them and our defense can’t even hope to hold them to less than 40. 

[cookinbrak]

23 hours ago, JARROD said:

It just means their defenses suck, bottom of the barrel.

 

7 turnovers, 3 for TDs.

[JARROD]

27 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

7 turnovers, 3 for TDs.

How many big plays and what was yards per play, and what was 3rd down percentage?

dont do that,... you score 50 burgers the defense sucks the worst ever.

when either of those face a real defense they will get pancaked

[SpeedOFLight]

23 hours ago, TheRed said:

Talent and firepower are there for us offensively, OL is ultimately holding us back.

I agree man. We need to draft an absolute beast at LT.

[trueblade]

31 minutes ago, JARROD said:

when either of those face a real defense they will get pancaked

I would be inclined to disagree. Both LAR and KC have faced top 11 defenses, scored 30+ and won.

KC put 38 on LA Chargers (#7 defense), 30 on Jacksonville (#9 defense) and 42 on Pittsburgh (#10 defense).

Rams put 35 on LA Charges (#7 defense), 33 and 36 on Seattle (#8 defense), 38 on Minnesota (#11 defense).

On the remaining schedule, the best defense left for the Rams is the Bears (#4) , and for KC, it's Baltimore (#1). My supposition is neither KC nor LAR will get, to use your words, "pancaked".

(Rankings based on Points Allowed per Game)

Aside: How good must LAC have been in those other games to have 38 and 35 hung on them and still be #7 at 20.9 PPG?

[JARROD]

58 minutes ago, trueblade said:

I would be inclined to disagree. Both LAR and KC have faced top 11 defenses, scored 30+ and won.

KC put 38 on LA Chargers (#7 defense), 30 on Jacksonville (#9 defense) and 42 on Pittsburgh (#10 defense).

Rams put 35 on LA Charges (#7 defense), 33 and 36 on Seattle (#8 defense), 38 on Minnesota (#11 defense).

On the remaining schedule, the best defense left for the Rams is the Bears (#4) , and for KC, it's Baltimore (#1). My supposition is neither KC nor LAR will get, to use your words, "pancaked".

(Rankings based on Points Allowed per Game)

Aside: How good must LAC have been in those other games to have 38 and 35 hung on them and still be #7 at 20.9 PPG?

We will see wont we?  People repeat history over and over again because people somehow forget and revise what happens in the past.

Actually New Orleans has a better defense than the Rams,.. look at what happened.

Also the defensive rankings are not accurate metrics,.. you have to look at scoring defense, big plays given up, and some others more than yards.  Some of those teams you mentioned are just now starting to get hot.  The Steelers start slow and the Chiefs played them when their defense was terrible.  They would lose now,.. Pittsburgh has among the best defensive and offensive stats the last few weeks, not just one or the other.

Its also the regular season where time and time again, teams light up but then they get to the playoffs and get---- pancaked.  

My favorite is Mrs Butterworths,.. its ready.

[trueblade]

54 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Also the defensive rankings are not accurate metrics,.. you have to look at scoring defense

Scoring defense is what I used. I made an attempt to take the rather nebulous term "real defense" and quantify it by using the current top 10-11 defenses in the NFL. Scoring defense is the best metric because at the end of the day, that's what matters -- how many points did your defense give up.

54 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Actually New Orleans has a better defense than the Rams,.. look at what happened.

Okay, let's look. Rams scored 35 points on them. The Rams defense gave up 45. So instead of the Rams losing because they "face a real defense" (by the metric NO ranks 15 btw), the Rams lost because their own defense was horrible / NO is really good on offense.

The facts support a conclusion that (thus far), both KC and LAR have faced top 11 defenses and each time, they scored 30+ and won. Even when they faced NO (#15) they still scored 30, We'll see what happens when they face CHI/BAL.

The biggest reason I could see someone shutting KC down in the playoffs is Andy Reid teams have a reputation for flaming out in crunch time (one reason I'm not enthused about Bieniemy as a possible Head Coaching candidate should the Panthers move on from Ron Rivera). 

[JARROD]

27 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Scoring defense is what I used. I made an attempt to take the rather nebulous term "real defense" and quantify it by using the current top 10-11 defenses in the NFL. Scoring defense is the best metric because at the end of the day, that's what matters -- how many points did your defense give up.

Okay, let's look. Rams scored 35 points on them. The Rams defense gave up 45. So instead of the Rams losing because they "face a real defense" (by the metric NO ranks 15 btw), the Rams lost because their own defense was horrible / NO is really good on offense.

The facts support a conclusion that (thus far), both KC and LAR have faced top 11 defenses and each time, they scored 30+ and won. Even when they faced NO (#15) they still scored 30, We'll see what happens when they face CHI/BAL.

The biggest reason I could see someone shutting KC down in the playoffs is Andy Reid teams have a reputation for flaming out in crunch time (one reason I'm not enthused about Bieniemy as a possible Head Coaching candidate should the Panthers move on from Ron Rivera). 

Again, defensive rankings are often skewed and wrong simply because of early season wins loses and playing weak teams or really tough teams etc. 

New Orleans has a better defense than 15, as witnessed with Phily and they are getting better.

Again, facts are skewed, metrics are imperfect.

im just saying that there are teams that are starting to get hot and gel, and teams that have real defenses that will pancake these 2 teams.

pancake may just mean winning 45-35 but a loss is a loss. 

The Jags and Steelers just showed some of that, Steelers having skewered us with a 50 burger—jags have a real defense that is starting to come on after early discord—

the steelers can also play old school and get their business done when it’s ugly.

the Rams and Chiefs both have lost when the game got ugly— they don’t win ugly— they lose.