Is this what we want the NFL to be?

[tiger7_88]

7 hours ago, Jmac said:

The Panthers have the talent on the offense to put up a 40+ spot on anyone, but is this really what we want to see every week? They have cut the nad's off the defense and makes it almost impossible to compete with a good offense.

So what is the answer? When we play the Saints and they put up 50 and we put up 45 is that what you want to see (or visa versa). Wouldn't  some defense be nice to equal out the advantage? Arena football puts up these kind of numbers.

These rules changes ain't gonna fly back into that box, Pandora.

Adapt or die.

Same thing on defense... if you're running the same damn defense you were running 20 years ago, then you've been left behind.  Somebody wake up and alert Ron because its been nappy-time for him for decades now.

[RumHam]

8 hours ago, Popsickle said:

Yes, this is what the NFL wants. It's painfully obvious. 

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Is it what I want? No, if a QB wants to throw a buddy pass to a receiver over the middle, some SS should Ronny Lott the hell out of him and be in top 10. But the NFL wants points because that is what is exciting to the average person that doesn't care about football. 

It's millennial football. Might as well be 7 on 7. League wants to be the NBA.

[RumHam]

5 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

The technical start date for Millennials is 1981 so I would assume that is the majority of this message board.

People now confuse millennials with gen Z which is the generation born after 1995.

By the way, people born prior to 89 are xennials. 1990+ is millennial imo. 

[Popsickle]

4 minutes ago, RumHam said:

It's millennial football. Might as well be 7 on 7. League wants to be the NBA.

Chasing a demographic that wants nothing to do with you while alienating your current fan base. *cough Star Wars 

[Jesse]

8 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Millennials with a 10 second attention span on the Huddle identified. I get it, some people need to see a TD every third play to stay engaged.

I'm 36.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/01/defining-generations-where-millennials-end-and-post-millennials-begin/

You're a millennial, dont ya know? 

[Still Brooklyn]

I'm 43, and I don't mind high-scoring games. It's exciting, like college ball is. And it's always nice to have 1 or 2 defense-minded teams out there that can shut a team down (Seattle vs Broncos, etc) at the right time. So rules hampering a D doesn't bother me.

The NBA? That is unwatchable. There is no point to even putting a D on the court. It's fancy street ball and a horrible product.

[LinvilleGorge]

As a true millennial, I'm here to state that I do not identify as a millennial.

[JARROD]

Defenses will adjust, they always do.

the Steelers put a 50 burger on us but Jax shut them down playing old school football, then the Steelers returned the favor by playing lights out defense in the 4th quarter, HoF quarterback play etc.

Ben dove for the final touchdown— running QB style.

old school still beats new school— not enough teams play it effectively but it’s coming back—

[joemac]

20 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Defenses will adjust, they always do.

the Steelers put a 50 burger on us but Jax shut them down playing old school football, then the Steelers returned the favor by playing lights out defense in the 4th quarter, HoF quarterback play etc.

Ben dove for the final touchdown— running QB style.

old school still beats new school— not enough teams play it effectively but it’s coming back—

Come on man, 3 yards and a cloud of dust, punt,  play defense is a good way to get your ass kicked by 45 these days.

[JARROD]

36 minutes ago, joemac said:

Come on man, 3 yards and a cloud of dust, punt,  play defense is a good way to get your ass kicked by 45 these days.

Did you read? That’s not what I posted. 

You have to be a complete team.

teams that give up 45 on a regular basis have terrible defenses.

complete defenses that still have offenses that can score when it’s clutch win Superbowls,...

thats why the Patriots have been to 8 Superbowls and won 5 under Belicheck—

other teams that just have one or the other don’t win but the playoffs do favor great running and defense teams— that’s proven over and over again.

people said what you are saying in the 80s— I remember all the high flying teams from the AFC—

they got drug in the Super Bowl— it was so boring watching them get pounded the Bud Bowl was the best part of the Super Bowl.

that will happen to the Rams and Chiefs,.. just like it did the Bills and Patriots and others from the 80s.

 

[DeAngelo Beason]

10 hours ago, Jmac said:

The Panthers have the talent on the offense to put up a 40+ spot on anyone, but is this really what we want to see every week? They have cut the nad's off the defense and makes it almost impossible to compete with a good offense.

So what is the answer? When we play the Saints and they put up 50 and we put up 45 is that what you want to see (or visa versa). Wouldn't  some defense be nice to equal out the advantage? Arena football puts up these kind of numbers.

I personally think the rules right now are destroying the game.  It's laughable to watch.  At least back in the day you had some variety on how a team could be successful.  You could be built on defense and running the ball, short passing, deep passing, different defensive looks and schemes... now, you might as well throw all your resources at the 11 guys on the offense.  It's getting to the point where there's no reason to invest on the defensive side of the ball anymore.

[run-run-pass-punt]

I used to watch the majority of games on Sunday - if not them all, along with MNF, etc. I'd watch the NFL shows on Monday or throughout the week. (I used to love Monday Quarterback - I think that's what it was called on ESPN.) Now, I watch the Panthers game, and *maybe* watch a few plays from another game or two, if that.

I even turned off the Panthers / Steelers game at half-time, which is something I couldn't have imagined myself doing years ago.

I dvr'd the Chiefs/Rams game from last night. I checked my phone this morning, saw the score and deleted the game from my recordings.

Not my type of game anymore.

[SixMileDrive]

3 hours ago, joemac said:

I was born in 1981, and there is a vast vast difference between those of us born in the early 80s and those of us born in 1995. Like night and day. I don’t really feel like a millennial...

No poo because you are a millennial and those born in 95 are gen z. I was born in 84 and am definitely a millennial. Conservative media outlets have turned the term into a pejorative though in an effort to scare old people into voting R.

[emhoward]

If we acknowledge how much the NFL has changed, and most of us have, is it then time that we change our expectations in terms of defensive performance?

Are we being too hard on KK, Poe, Luke and TD? What about Washington? Is he that much worse than his predecessors or has the rules changed to the extent that his job is a lot more difficult than before. 

This isn't to say they get a pass. Just that what looks like bad defense may be the new average.